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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    #76
    Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
    We all have our personal favorites and I have not heard many of the choices out there.

    1. Davis/BSO
    2. Monteux /LSO
    3. Saraste/Helsinki
    4. Von K/Berlin
    5. Barbiroli
    6. Vanska Lahti
    7. Blomstedt/S.F
    Tapiola Von K
    At the moment (changes daily)

    I will say:

    1. Bernstein VPO DG
    2. Karajan BPO 1980 EMI (sorry Bryn & Barbirollians!)
    3. Vanska Lahti BIS
    4. Karajan BPO 1965 DG
    5. Karajan BPO 1965 DG
    6. ?
    7. Ashkenazy Philharmonia Decca

    Kullervo - EP Salonen LA Phil Sony (the only recording I have!)

    Tapiola - Karajan 1984 DG
    Oceanides - Vanska Lahti - BIS
    Lemminkainen Legends - Petri Sakari Iceland Symphony Orchestra Naxos
    Finlandia - Philharmonia Decca
    Pohjola's Daughter - Vanska Lahti - BIS

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    • tigajen

      #77
      1.Vanska Lahti
      2.Barbirolli RPO
      3.Jarvi Gothenburg (1983)
      4 Vanska Lahti
      5 Barbirolli (Prom)
      6 Sakari Iceland
      7.Beecham RPO
      Kullervo Davis LSO Live
      Tapiola Segerstam Helsinki PO (Just ahead of Beecham)
      Lemminkainen Segersatm Hesinki PO
      Pelleas Beecham RPO
      Pohjola Davis Boston

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #78
        There are so many wonderful recordings of these marvellous works - complete cycles by Vanska, Barbirolli, Davis (all three!), Bernstein (NYPO), Collins, Maazel (VPO), Gibson - and Rattle and Ashkenazy.

        And, individually

        1) Sargent/BBCSO, Kajanus/RPO
        2) Barbirolli/RPO, Szell/Concertgebeouw, Kajanus/RPO
        3)Kajanus/LSO
        4) Beecham/LPO, Karajan/BPO (1960s)
        5) Karajan/BPO (1960s) - until the final chords in the last bar!, Kajanus/LSO, Rattle/Philharmonia
        6) Beecham/LPO, Karajan BPO (either of them, or the Philharmonia)
        7) Karajan/BPO (1960s)
        Violin Concerto - Ferras/BPO/Karajan, Accardo/LSO/Davis, Kavakos/Vanska
        Tapiola - Karajan (any of 'em)
        Pohola - Bernstein/NYPO
        Leminkainen - Beecham

        So many excellent recordings (Mackerras #2) not mentioned. The only versions that I can't make "contact" with - to my very deep regret - are those by Berglund! So many people whose views I respect and trust are so enthusiastic about his three cycles, but none of them "register" with me ... yes, to my very deep regret.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11705

          #79
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          There are so many wonderful recordings of these marvellous works - complete cycles by Vanska, Barbirolli, Davis (all three!), Bernstein (NYPO), Collins, Maazel (VPO), Gibson - and Rattle and Ashkenazy.

          And, individually

          1) Sargent/BBCSO, Kajanus/RPO
          2) Barbirolli/RPO, Szell/Concertgebeouw, Kajanus/RPO
          3)Kajanus/LSO
          4) Beecham/LPO, Karajan/BPO (1960s)
          5) Karajan/BPO (1960s) - until the final chords in the last bar!, Kajanus/LSO, Rattle/Philharmonia
          6) Beecham/LPO, Karajan BPO (either of them, or the Philharmonia)
          7) Karajan/BPO (1960s)
          Violin Concerto - Ferras/BPO/Karajan, Accardo/LSO/Davis, Kavakos/Vanska
          Tapiola - Karajan (any of 'em)
          Pohola - Bernstein/NYPO
          Leminkainen - Beecham

          So many excellent recordings (Mackerras #2) not mentioned. The only versions that I can't make "contact" with - to my very deep regret - are those by Berglund! So many people whose views I respect and trust are so enthusiastic about his three cycles, but none of them "register" with me ... yes, to my very deep regret.
          Oh dear fhgl you clearly pressed reply before you had finished as you did not choose any Ida Haendel version of the Violin Concerto !
          .
          My favourite Ida H version is the live one with Rattle from 1993 followed closely by the Berglund and the Ancerl . I should like to track down the legendary Camilla Wicks version .

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          • pastoralguy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7761

            #80
            I really feel the need to wave the flag for the SNO under Sir Alex Gibson who were doing great work to promote these marvellous works when Sibelius's star dipped.

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11705

              #81
              Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
              I really feel the need to wave the flag for the SNO under Sir Alex Gibson who were doing great work to promote these marvellous works when Sibelius's star dipped.
              I do not have any of his recordings of the symphonies but his Lemminkainen record is excellent .

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              • jayne lee wilson
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 10711

                #82
                Another reminder, doubtless ignored once again, for the oft-overlooked Sanderling/Berlin SO cycle. He gives you the symphonic essence of the music, orchestrally and with effortless structural clarity. It's like clear, cold spring water, glittering against rock. But the Berlin SO strings are still strong and full in the ChristusKirche acoustic. He really brings home that final chord in NO.3, so often a disappointment in performance. If that isn't right it can feel as if the whole reading fails... too much to say too little time, gotta go - but - Rattle/CBSO great in 3-7, less so in 1 and 2, seek out the Robert Layton review of 1&2 in G. for... 3/87. If you find the original Angel CD of 3&7 grab it, an audiophile treat as well as a musical one.

                Wild Card... Rozhdestvensky.

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #83
                  Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                  I really feel the need to wave the flag for the SNO under Sir Alex Gibson who were doing great work to promote these marvellous works when Sibelius's star dipped.
                  I have one or two of his symphony CDs somewhere, but I can't find them! Chandos.

                  His Lemminkainen Legends, Luonnotar & Bard Chandos CD is easily to hand and is wonderful (as you'd expect), but at the moment, I find Petri Sakari Iceland Symphony CD on Naxos is my 'go to' for the legends.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #84
                    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                    I really feel the need to wave the flag for the SNO under Sir Alex Gibson who were doing great work to promote these marvellous works when Sibelius's star dipped.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #85
                      Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                      Wild Card... Rozhdestvensky.
                      - although, for wildness, per se, Segerstam is in a league of his own!
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        I find Petri Sakari Iceland Symphony CD on Naxos is my 'go to' for the legends.
                        Oh, YES! I'd forgotten that superb disc!
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                          My favourite Ida H version is the live one with Rattle from 1993


                          I seem to have gone for conductors rather than soloists in my choice - but this is indeed quite (in the sense of "totally") marvellous.

                          My thumb's beginning to ache - how lucky Sibelius has been in recording history.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • pastoralguy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7761

                            #88
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            - although, for wildness, per se, Segerstam is in a league of his own!
                            We in Scotland were lucky enough to hear him conduct 5,6 & 7 in one concert with the BBCSSO approx 8 years ago. A truly devastating experience...

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                            • visualnickmos
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3610

                              #89
                              Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                              Another reminder, doubtless ignored once again, for the oft-overlooked Sanderling/Berlin SO cycle. He gives you the symphonic essence of the music, orchestrally and with effortless structural clarity. It's like clear, cold spring water, glittering against rock. But the Berlin SO strings are still strong and full in the ChristusKirche acoustic. He really brings home that final chord in NO.3, so often a disappointment in performance. If that isn't right it can feel as if the whole reading fails... too much to say too little time, gotta go - but - Rattle/CBSO great in 3-7, less so in 1 and 2, seek out the Robert Layton review of 1&2 in G. for... 3/87. If you find the original Angel CD of 3&7 grab it, an audiophile treat as well as a musical one.

                              Wild Card... Rozhdestvensky.
                              Yes, yes and yes....

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                              • pastoralguy
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7761

                                #90
                                I wonder what Boulez would have made of the Sibelius symphonies!

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