Favourite Sibelius cycle

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Finished listening to the whole of Rattle’s set now . The Fourth is just magnificent - outstrips the very fine Maazel for example and whilst not as bleak as the EMI Karajan it is probably more moving in its vulnerability. The Sixth still eludes me but could not elude me more beautifully.
    That has to be quite a performance, to say the least?
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • Kernow Malc
      Full Member
      • Oct 2018
      • 56

      It doesn't matter which cycle you have - they all play the same tunes.

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      • LMcD
        Full Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 8470

        Originally posted by Kernow Malc View Post
        It doesn't matter which cycle you have - they all play the same tunes.
        Unless your cycle happens to include the original version of the 5th symphony, as the Lahti/Vanska set, for one, does?
        I don't think there are actually that many 'tunes' in Sibelius, but when one does arrive it's always been worth the wait.
        In this respect, he follows the example of, among others, Beethoven - for example, there's only one real 'tune' in the Pastoral Symphony, and you have to survive the storm first!

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        • cloughie
          Full Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 22120

          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
          Unless your cycle happens to include the original version of the 5th symphony, as the Lahti/Vanska set, for one, does?
          I don't think there are actually that many 'tunes' in Sibelius, but when one does arrive it's always been worth the wait.
          In this respect, he follows the example of, among others, Beethoven - for example, there's only one real 'tune' in the Pastoral Symphony, and you have to survive the storm first!
          Depends on how you define a tune - there are many bits of Sibelius I find myself singing or getting an earworm from!

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          • LMcD
            Full Member
            • Sep 2017
            • 8470

            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            Depends on how you define a tune - there are many bits of Sibelius I find myself singing or getting an earworm from!
            I'd love to hear your rendition of the tritone in the 4th symphony! (Actually, for a singer of your calibre, it's probably a morceau de gateau)

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            • cloughie
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              • Dec 2011
              • 22120

              Originally posted by LMcD View Post
              I'd love to hear your rendition of the tritone in the 4th symphony! (Actually, for a singer of your calibre, it's probably a morceau de gateau)
              I didn’t say all! But I’m sure with the requisite practice I could nail it!

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              • LMcD
                Full Member
                • Sep 2017
                • 8470

                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                I didn’t say all! But I’m sure with the requisite practice I could nail it!
                I do occasionally inflict my version of 'Thor swinging his hammer' on the lady wife if she's not quick enough to spot the signs and hurriedly leave the room. There are, I admit, quite a few nice tunes among Sibelius's many 'incidental' pieces, the most famous of which is possibly 'At the Castle Gate'.

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22120

                  Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                  I do occasionally inflict my version of 'Thor swinging his hammer' on the lady wife if she's not quick enough to spot the signs and hurriedly leave the room. There are, I admit, quite a few nice tunes among Sibelius's many 'incidental' pieces, the most famous of which is possibly 'At the Castle Gate'.
                  Leminkainen’s Return?

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                  • Pulcinella
                    Host
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10936

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Leminkainen’s Return?
                    Ah: That's what the L stands for in LMcD is it?

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22120

                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      Ah: That's what the L stands for in LMcD is it?



                      Obviously wasn’t keen on Tuonela so no Swan song!

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                      • LMcD
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8470

                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post


                        Obviously wasn’t keen on Tuonela so no Swan song!
                        That reminds me of another fine ManTran song - Swansong d'Amour. (Sorry, couldn't resist)

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22120

                          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                          That reminds me of another fine ManTran song - Swansong d'Amour. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
                          Does that translate as ‘It’s all over now’?

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                          • LMcD
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 8470

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Does that translate as ‘It’s all over now’?
                            Could be - or perhaps that most dreaded of phrases often used in such situations' - 'We need to talk'

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22120

                              Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                              Could be - or perhaps that most dreaded of phrases often used in such situations' - 'We need to talk'
                              Or Cliff’s ‘We don’t talk anymore’!

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                              • Barbirollians
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11686

                                Favourite Sibelius cycle

                                Interesting discussion on the Sibelius 6 BAL thread as to whether this composer's symphonies are the most disparate and most difficult to produce a cohesive complete cycle of .

                                A fair point - but if you do know a cycle which is your favourite ?

                                I have Davis RCA and LSO Live, Barbirolli, Maazel and Ashkenazy .

                                I suspect th fact the latter was my first might explain my fondness for it - but I like them all albeit in each cycle there are some performances I enjoy more than others .

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