Thomas Ades - Dante ballet

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11680

    Thomas Ades - Dante ballet

    I see Mr McGregor made this a record of the week and I was very taken by the extracts he played. I see the Gramophone reviewer was a bit sniffy about some of it.

    Anyone bought it or heard the whole ballet ? If so what do you think?
  • silvestrione
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    • Jan 2011
    • 1707

    #2
    Not much interest here! I watched the ballet version on TV a couple of times, intrigued because I'm especially interested in Dante, and I did enjoy it. But not sure I'd want to be bothered with the music on its own.

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11680

      #3
      Yes I noted the lack of interest - when was it on TV ? Is it still available to stream somewhere do you know ?

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #4
        Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
        . . . But not sure I'd want to be bothered with the music on its own.
        My reaction to everything I have heard of his, except his work as a piano accompanist in Janáček's Diary of one who disappeared, which was very fine.

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        • Pianoman
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          • Jan 2013
          • 529

          #5
          I've just downloaded it and have rather taken to it, especially as accompaniment in the car...Like a lot of Ades, it's fun spotting the stylistic references, but it's played with great panache (and sound quality) so I can't really grumble. How well it wears is another matter maybe, but for now I'm enjoying it.

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          • Bryn
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            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #6
            Originally posted by Pianoman View Post
            I've just downloaded it and have rather taken to it, especially as accompaniment in the car...Like a lot of Ades, it's fun spotting the stylistic references, but it's played with great panache (and sound quality) so I can't really grumble. How well it wears is another matter maybe, but for now I'm enjoying it.
            Was the download from Bandcamp? I was quite surprised to see Nonesuch using that site for distribution.

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            • Pianoman
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              • Jan 2013
              • 529

              #7
              Presto - my usual source.

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              • Master Jacques
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                • Feb 2012
                • 1882

                #8
                As an admirer of Adès's orchestral and chamber music (and the majority of his operas, with the exception of The Tempest) I'm looking forward to hearing Dante, which I have reason to believe might be coming my way when I have my birthday in a couple of weeks or so. It's interesting to read the positive comments on it here: for me, Tevot and the Violin Concerto are among my favourite works by a contemporary composer - I'd love to know why he wasn't commissioned for the Coronation. Did he perhaps turn it down??

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                • Pianoman
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                  • Jan 2013
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
                  It's interesting to read the positive comments on it here: for me, Tevot and the Violin Concerto are among my favourite works by a contemporary composer
                  You've just happened to name the two that are also my favourites by him - along with Totentanz. I think you'll enjoy Dante - it's full of typical Ades colour and excitement and it's really very infectious, with great orchestral writing and wearing its homages fully, but you sense with genuine affection.

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10921

                    #10
                    Streaming now: no booklet/text of course.
                    Anyone know what is sung?

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                    • Master Jacques
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                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1882

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pianoman View Post
                      You've just happened to name the two that are also my favourites by him - along with Totentanz. I think you'll enjoy Dante - it's full of typical Ades colour and excitement and it's really very infectious, with great orchestral writing and wearing its homages fully, but you sense with genuine affection.
                      Thank you - my appetite is even more keenly whetted!

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                      • silvestrione
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                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1707

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        Streaming now: no booklet/text of course.
                        Anyone know what is sung?
                        Fulsome review in The Guardian that mentions pre-recorded voices from the Ades Synagogue in Jerusalem...

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #13
                          Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                          Fulsome review in The Guardian that mentions pre-recorded voices from the Ades Synagogue in Jerusalem...

                          https://www.theguardian.com/stage/20...-edward-watson
                          I have not read the review but did you intend the modern or the historical use of "Fulsome"?

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                          • silvestrione
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                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1707

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            I have not read the review but did you intend the modern or the historical use of "Fulsome"?
                            Bit confused, I'm afraid: always thought it meant slightly overly enthusiastic, or similar.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37678

                              #15
                              Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                              Bit confused, I'm afraid: always thought it meant slightly overly enthusiastic, or similar.
                              No, it's used whenever Scots people need another drink: "Will ye fullsome more, lassie?"

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