Originally posted by gurnemanz
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Gramophone at 100
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It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by mikealdren View PostAs you say, the digital archive has scanned copied of all the magazines so it has everything but they are not searchable and since they no longer publish the index, you can't easily find things. As you say, the database is only from 1983 and I believe that it only contains reviews but it is digitised so you can search it. Rob's article would certainly appear in the archive but, I think, not in the database.
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostThose claims hardly deserved the well-argued and comprehensive refutation that JLW gave them on our behalf.
Yet ... if quality of writing, precise description and informed judgment are the touchstone, then (assuming the March 2023 issue, which a colleague has passed on to me, is a fair example of the current standard) there has been a sad decline in overall quality. Not universally, of course there are exceptions, and it would be stupid to pretend otherwise; but there are simply not enough exceptions (for me) to justify the price tag.
It's something of a miracle that the magazine is still alive at all. So there is surely nothing very contentious about the idea that Gramophone has descended from being a vital journal to a coffee-table, life-style accessory. It is graphics-heavy, and text-light. This descent simply mirrors what's happened in the realm of the performing (and other "high") arts, since the 1960s. I'm sure the editorial team do their best; but they can no longer afford to pay contributors properly, which is one reason why quality - as well as loyalty from an ever-reducing subscriber base - has inevitably suffered.
I am sorry to rain on any celebratory parade, but pretending that all is rosy in the Gramophone garden does nobody any service. We can be grateful for what it was, more than what it has become.
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Originally posted by mikealdren View PostAs you say, the digital archive has scanned copied of all the magazines so it has everything but they are not searchable and since they no longer publish the index, you can't easily find things. As you say, the database is only from 1983 and I believe that it only contains reviews but it is digitised so you can search it. Rob's article would certainly appear in the archive but, I think, not in the database.
Gramophone has been the world’s leading authority on classical music since 1923. Every issue will enrich your classical music knowledge with in-depth interviews and features about composers past and present, plus established and new artists from across the globe. Gramophone is the magazine for the classical collector, as well for the enthusiast starting a voyage of discovery.
That is the page I see when I log on, with rows of monthly covers, as a subscriber on a MacBook. The search is at top right of the page. So you can indeed search for everything ever published in Gramophone there. (If you are not subscribed, use iOS or another tablet....YMMV...)Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 06-04-23, 19:34.
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Originally posted by Master Jacques View PostI'm sorry to report that I have not read any "counter-claims" from "JLW"; so I'm unaware of any "comprehensive refutation" from them. Silence is probably my best response.
Yet ... if quality of writing, precise description and informed judgment are the touchstone, then (assuming the March 2023 issue, which a colleague has passed on to me, is a fair example of the current standard) there has been a sad decline in overall quality. Not universally, of course there are exceptions, and it would be stupid to pretend otherwise; but there are simply not enough exceptions (for me) to justify the price tag.
It's something of a miracle that the magazine is still alive at all. So there is surely nothing very contentious about the idea that Gramophone has descended from being a vital journal to a coffee-table, life-style accessory. It is graphics-heavy, and text-light. This descent simply mirrors what's happened in the realm of the performing (and other "high") arts, since the 1960s. I'm sure the editorial team do their best; but they can no longer afford to pay contributors properly, which is one reason why quality - as well as loyalty from an ever-reducing subscriber base - has inevitably suffered.
I am sorry to rain on any celebratory parade, but pretending that all is rosy in the Gramophone garden does nobody any service. We can be grateful for what it was, more than what it has become.
I already showed your claims that reviews are shorter now than before the millennium to be false (they are often longer, especially for a significant new release) All anyone has to do is examine issues from the 80s or 90s, when it had far less to cover anyway, to see the truth of this. You have to go much further back, to a time of many fewer monthly releases in the 50s - 70s, to see any difference in wordage, and even then not consistently.
The magazine has survived, in print and online, precisely because it has changed - to meet all the new media demands of a rapidly changing digital landscape.
There are still good, deeply knowledgeable writers like Gutman, Achenbach, Threasher, Quantrill (who also writes on Classical for HFN now) and Rob Cowan writing for Gramophone today, and very capable younger ones like the Brucknerian Christian Hoskins. Charlotte Gardner contributes notes to Qobuz as well as reviews for Gramophone. Yet you find all this evidence of a "sad decline"? OK - Pick out a review - the Bacewicz 3/4 Symphonies (3/2023, CH), say - and tell us what is wrong with it; show us how you would improve it.
In other words - do the research before making the claims, or accusations; offer your proof.
So we are all still waiting for you to give evidence. Why not direct us to one of your "lickspittle" features from March 2023?
If silence is your "best response" - it is simply an admission of defeat.Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 06-04-23, 19:39.
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I still enjoy obtaining a new copy of Gramophone. The likes of EG, RL, IM, MEO, JBS, JC and JS haven’t been replaced but how could they be?! I could do without the Orchestra of the Year guff and Awards more generally.
Not keen on the reviewers of solo piano, Dave Fanning and Harriet Smith excepted.
Most of us struggle to recapture the puppy love of a certain time of our youth but, as others have written, the magazine ultimately enriches my mundane life.
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Originally posted by Alison View PostI never see the point of falling out over an interesting but ultimately trivial topic such as we are discussing here.
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