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  • aeolium
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3992

    Recordings of the composer as performer

    Prompted by a forthcoming TtN programme showcasing examples of composers performing in their own works, I would be interested to hear opinions about which recordings of composers performing have particularly impressed MBers, and also which recordings of composers performing their own works have in their view been less than successful and have been superseded by later recordings with other performers.

    Since recordings especially from the first part of the C20 may not have great sound, I'd suggest that sound quality be excluded from consideration and as far as is possible the performance alone is assessed (not easy with some of the earliest recordings, I accept).

    As a starter for ten, I suggest Samuel Barber's singing of On Dover Beach, his work for voice and string quartet - this made a strong impression on me when it was broadcast on R3 last year.
  • Suffolkcoastal
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3290

    #2
    I've a number of recordings of Copland playing the piano part in his own music, including the Violin Sonata, Duo for Flute & Piano and Piano Concerto. His piano playing often has a very brittle, detached quality and is occasionally quite harsh. It is quite clear that Copland's highly individual writing for the piano is derived from his own manner of playing. I've also a recording somewhere of this years' forgotten anniversary composer Alan Hovhaness accompanying his wife in some of his songs. His playing from what I remember was secure enough and far better than the shrill, thin, insecure voice of his wife. Of course there are plenty of recordings of Britten playing accompanying in his own song cycles, but I'll leave that for others to discuss.

    It is a pity that Bax never (at least as far as I am aware) recorded any of his own piano music, he was by all accounts and exceptionally fine pianist and phenomenal sight reader.

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37678

      #3
      Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
      It is a pity that Bax never (at least as far as I am aware) recorded any of his own piano music, he was by all accounts and exceptionally fine pianist and phenomenal sight reader.
      One might think he would have had to have been... to have composed that second piano sonata! That said, Ravel managed to create the stunning Gaspard, his own pianistic techniques notwithstanding.

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      • Ferretfancy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3487

        #4
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        One might think he would have had to have been... to have composed that second piano sonata! That said, Ravel managed to create the stunning Gaspard, his own pianistic techniques notwithstanding.
        I used to have an LP taken from a piano roll that Ravel made, including La Vallee des Cloches from Miroirs, it was dismally played, but as you say Gaspard is stunning. I suppose the most obvious candidate for inclusion on this thread is Rachmaninov, who surely nobody has excelled in his own music. There's a good transfer available of Prokofiev playing his 3rd Concerto with a selection from Vision Fugitives and other solo works, not great sound but fine performances.

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        • mercia
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8920

          #5
          Samuel Barber's singing of On Dover Beach ......................... broadcast on R3 last year.
          repeated this week, Monday to be precise

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          • cavatina

            #6
            A few off the top of my head that haven't been mentioned...

            Hindemith plays Hindemith:
            Hindemith plays his "Scherzo for viola and cello"Paul Hindemith, violaEmanuel Feuermann, violoncellorec.1934


            Bartok plays Bartok:
            Béla Bartók (1881-1945): from Two Romanian Dances opus 8a (1910): no. 1, Allegro vivace Béla Bartók, piano (recorded in 1929)Painting by Pierre-August Renoir...


            Mahler plays Mahler:
            Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


            Scriabin plays Scriabin:
            Alexander Scriabin plays Etude Op.8 No.12 Welte-Mignon recording


            Fauré plays Fauré:
            Masters of the Roll (Reproducing Player Piano)Pavane, Op. 50Gabriel Fauré, piano


            Stravinsky plays Stravinsky:
            Igor Stravinsky - Piano Sonata (1924) 2. Adagietto1. quarter note = 1123. quarter note = 112

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37678

              #7
              Originally posted by cavatina View Post
              A few off the top of my head that haven't been mentioned...

              Hindemith plays Hindemith:
              Hindemith plays his "Scherzo for viola and cello"Paul Hindemith, violaEmanuel Feuermann, violoncellorec.1934


              Bartok plays Bartok:
              Béla Bartók (1881-1945): from Two Romanian Dances opus 8a (1910): no. 1, Allegro vivace Béla Bartók, piano (recorded in 1929)Painting by Pierre-August Renoir...


              Mahler plays Mahler:
              Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


              Scriabin plays Scriabin:
              Igor Stravinsky - Piano Sonata (1924) 2. Adagietto1. quarter note = 1123. quarter note = 112


              Fauré plays Fauré:
              Masters of the Roll (Reproducing Player Piano)Pavane, Op. 50Gabriel Fauré, piano


              Stravinsky plays Stravinsky:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGoqle4m34
              Bartok plays Bartok is IT, for me. Thanks for posting those clips cavatina - will check out the others tonight: things to do!

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              • mercia
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                #8
                Holst conducting The Planets (with RVW conducting his 4th on the same disc)
                Elgar conducting Menuhin in the VC

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #9
                  I have a cd of Mahler playing Mahler!
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26533

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    I have a cd of Mahler playing Mahler!

                    Me too!
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37678

                      #11
                      A clip of Mahler conducting Debussy's "La Mer" would be fascinating, to say the least.

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                      • salymap
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5969

                        #12
                        Did Kodaly make any recordings? Yonks ago I saw/heard him conduct Hary Janos and Psalmus Hungaricus at the RAH. He was a very good conductor.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37678

                          #13
                          Originally posted by salymap View Post
                          Did Kodaly make any recordings? Yonks ago I saw/heard him conduct Hary Janos and Psalmus Hungaricus at the RAH. He was a very good conductor.
                          Yes saly - I have his recording of his Psalmus Hungaricus. I played it to a Canadian Hungarian ex-pat friend of mine, and she wept on hearing it. Not my intended effect, I hasten to add! I'll check it out later for you.

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                          • mercia
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            #14
                            Did Kodaly make any recordings?

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                            • Serial_Apologist
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37678

                              #15
                              Ah, thanks for saving me the time mercia

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