Conducting Beethoven from the piano

[BBMmk2]

Indeed, it is up to the creative artist as to how their vision of a work should be interpreted. I’m in agreement with Jorge Bolet, when he talks about this.

[Barbirollians]

I see from a Gramophone from 1976 that Leonard Bernstein conducted at least 1 and 3 from the piano . A rather unimpressed Trevor Harvey complained about his mucking the tempi about . Anyone heard them ?

[pastoralguy]

I see from a Gramophone from 1976 that Leonard Bernstein conducted at least 1 and 3 from the piano . A rather unimpressed Trevor Harvey complained about his mucking the tempi about . Anyone heard them ?

I’d rather hoped they would be in the big SONY box set that came out a few years ago. Alas, there’s no sign of them.

[Barbirollians]

I imagine Sony have just reissued his accompaniments to Serkin in their earlier reissues.

[Barbirollians]

By the by I think I was too hard on Shelley’s set - are they the most exciting performances of these concertos I have ever heard - no but there are lots of compensatory delights especially in 1,3 & 4. Also the set includes his own orchestration of WoO4 which is a charming piece , a crisp clear Choral FantSia, much the most convincing account of the piano version of Op61 I have ever heard and a good Triple albeit Tamsin Little’s tone is not at its sweetest.

[BBMmk2]

By the by I think I was too hard on Shelley’s set - are they the most exciting performances of these concertos I have ever heard - no but there are lots of compensatory delights especially in 1,3 & 4. Also the set includes his own orchestration of WoO4 which is a charming piece , a crisp clear Choral FantSia, much the most convincing account of the piano version of Op61 I have ever heard and a good Triple albeit Tamsin Little’s tone is not at its sweetest.

I must get around to hearing that set, sometime!

[Barbirollians]

I must get around to hearing that set, sometime!

It's a rewarding set BBM. I have been listening to Rubinstein/Barenboim today. It is a very interesting set as there seems a lot in common with Klemperer's support for Barenboim as soloist and Rubinstein plays extraordinarily for someone of his age. Immensely enjoyable.

[Barbirollians]

I’d rather hoped they would be in the big SONY box set that came out a few years ago. Alas, there’s no sign of them.

It seems the First was coupled with Mozart 25 in the Sony royal edition adorned with some of Prince Charles’s daubs. I have found a secondhand copy . I found it very enjoyable if rather old fashioned in style rather heart on its sleeve Lenny style. The Mozart is also enjoyable in a grand manner but seems more modern in style. Certainly, no inadequacies in the conducting here I would have thought !

[Bryn]

There is such a recording, originally released in 1963, on QOBUZ, couped with the Rachmaninov 2nd (Philippe Entremont).

[Barbirollians]

There is such a recording, originally released in 1963, on QOBUZ, couped with the Rachmaninov 2nd (Philippe Entremont).

Are you referring to Lenny’s self conducted Beethoven ?

[Bryn]

Are you referring to Lenny’s self conducted Beethoven ?

Indeed, https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/be.../0886446445700