Fantasy Overture Romeo and Juliet

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
    I’m sure there’s a Barbirolli recording that was never completed. It stops just before the coda.

    I was disappointed that it wasn't included in the Barbirolli big box in 2020. Yet other incomplete recordings were there.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
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      #17
      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      Yes there was

      Forever to be associated with his beloved Halle Orchestra, Barbirolli’s EMI discography includes several recordings with the Philharmonia – Verdi&#8


      I don’t know if it was included the big Warner box - no doubt those on forum who indulged in this can inform!
      Not there. Only the mono Pye version.

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      • gurnemanz
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        I recently got a download of the 1963 Monteux/LSO performance live in Vienna - the 88 year old and his players are on great form. Two years earlier he had signed a 25-year contract! He died in 1964.

        (It's on YouTube)

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
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          #19
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Not there. Only the mono Pye version.
          In which case I think it must have been on an LP including recordings not previously released sometime in a year or two after he died - I have a recollection of Mastersingers Ov being on the same LP.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            In which case I think it must have been on an LP including recordings not previously released sometime in a year or two after he died - I have a recollection of Mastersingers Ov being on the same LP.
            I think the Mastersingers Overture was on the Glorious John album, released soon after his death.

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            • gradus
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              • Nov 2010
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              #21
              Never felt the need to venture beyond Karajan/VPO.

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by gradus View Post
                Never felt the need to venture beyond Karajan/VPO.
                I find I have that coupled with Szell’s incendiary Fourth - it’s a classy affair but perhaps rather lacking in the visceral excitement of other performances like the Cantelli.

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                • Bryn
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #23
                  All very interesting but which versions of the work are we dealing with. There are recordings of the 1869, 1870(BBCSSO, Baldur Bronnimann, broadcast during the Radio 3 Tchaikovsky Experience), and 1880 final definitive version.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    All very interesting but which versions of the work are we dealing with. There are recordings of the 1869, 1870(BBCSSO, Baldur Bronnimann, broadcast during the Radio 3 Tchaikovsky Experience), and 1880 final definitive version.
                    I suspect the latter.

                    I note that in BBCMM in 2020 Jessica Duchen plumped for the 1957 Bernstein. I suppose that makes sense that the man who wrote the music for West Side Story was brilliant in this piece.

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                    • Bryn
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      I suspect the latter.

                      I note that in BBCMM in 2020 Jessica Duchen plumped for the 1957 Bernstein. I suppose that makes sense that the man who wrote the music for West Side Story was brilliant in this piece.
                      I'm tempted to investigate the Jurowski SACD with the 1869 original version, or maybe I'll import the Hi-Res stereo option from QOBUZ.

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by gradus View Post
                        Never felt the need to venture beyond Karajan/VPO.
                        In audio terms, perhaps not as good as the later VPO/Maazel. Some rather obvious limiting triggered by the timpani in the fighting scenes. Great interpretation though.

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                        • BBMmk2
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Alison View Post
                          A work programmed not that often. Where do you put it?
                          With other Shakespearean themed music, or what other composers have written, with inspirations from literary fare?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            It was always there in the regular all-Tchaikovsky Victor Hochhauser concerts.

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              It was always there in the regular all-Tchaikovsky Victor Hochhauser concerts.
                              Followed by Piano Concerto No 1 and 1812 !

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                Not there. Only the mono Pye version.
                                I was mistaken. The unfinished recording is there on Disc 64, after Barbirolli’s BBCSO Eroica. My error was actually Warner’s error, as this version isn’t mentioned in the booklet’s index.

                                I listened to it for the first time today. It’s a terrific interpretation. What a pity he didn’t live to record the coda.

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