Mena Mainlines Bruckner - an exceptional 6th

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  • jayne lee wilson
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    • Jul 2011
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    Mena Mainlines Bruckner - an exceptional 6th

    BRUCKNER 6 BBCPO/MENA …CHANDOS 24/48//CD..
    Beauty of line and tone, warm articulate strings, sweet songful winds, brass brilliant and blazing but never remotely grandiose….. wide dynamics with threshold-of-audibility pps, horns deep in the misty forest….infinite subtleties on every musical level.
    A wonderful 6th from a conductor who really understands this music, exceptionally well recorded.

    ****
    The beginning is very, very soft. So quiet that I doubted if the 2+3 rhythm would be clear enough to carry the movement’s momentum (so often a drawback in so many recordings). In fact this is one of the best I’ve heard in this respect, not only for its clarity in busy passages but for its lovely buoyancy too: one notes the little uplift on the 5th note of the 2+3. The gesangs are allowed time to breathe and reflect, with a lovely strings/wind blend; then the violins soar, tempi flexible but natural, horn solos evocative in their spatial depth and expressive phrasing. Spacious atmospheric sound, matching Mena’s conception which is poetic but never over-Romanticised, a certain tonal beauty cultivated, but exceptional clarity of line and argument. He carries the movement through from the midpoint of the development on a single breath - an essential part of the 6th’s symphonic flow.

    This simply one of the greatest 1st Movements on record, tapping into some deep Brucknerian source, beyond Mena’s own vision. (After it, I always had to take some time before proceeding).

    The adagio presents a different challenge: at 20’ it is one of the slowest on record - even Celibidache is only a mere 22’.
    But Mena keeps things flowing, the evocative beauty of line and string tone (and those horn calls again) complementing the 1st movement’s quest and adventure. I usually prefer this movement quicker, presented with more volatility; it can feel rather isolated at this pace. But the mark of a great performance is how it can persuade: it won me over. (Mena's intense concentration convinces me in a way that Celi - a true point of reference here - never quite does.)
    Mena realises his own vision in this adagio perfectly upon a very willing orchestra, and the sheer beauty and remoteness of it is of a piece with his conception. The third, funereal thematic group is the slowest I’ve ever heard; as if Mena is drawing us in to listen, not to him, but with him. It is profoundly searching, part of what makes this adagio, again one of the greatest I’ve experienced.

    *****
    Suddenly we awake to a very brisk scherzo - and a 14’ finale. So, a Symphony in two halves? Or three parts? That is a valid way of doing the 6th.
    The trio is lovely - witty and graceful in its charm and self-quotations; Mena really understands this music, so he could do what he likes in the finale….but it virtually plays itself.
    This is very fast, brilliant but thoughtful: those little clarinet counterpoints across the very start, the clarity of drumrolls; the way tempo and dynamic variations are used to signpost the structure with great intelligence - note the slow start to the development. Terrific brass power (always clean-edged, not remotely grandiose or monumental). Very wide dynamic range. One notes (as throughout) an exceptional subtlety in tonal/coloristic and dynamic responses: Mena has thought everything through, yet it never loses flow or momentum.

    So, a great statement from an instinctive Brucknerian with a crowning end to an exceptional reading. (And perhaps the more miraculous for having lain in some forgotten Chandos Vaults for almost 10 years. But a Bruckner 6th of this character could have been a worthy icon in the composer’s crypt).

    I hope Mena gets the chance to record more Bruckner, somewhere this side of the Rainbow.
    Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 04-09-21, 15:55.
  • Bryn
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    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #2
    Unsure? Catch it on Sounds: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000z69y (shown as starting at 02:31, i.e. approximately 2 hours in).

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #3
      I’ll have to hear this!
      Don’t cry for me
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      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • Ein Heldenleben
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        • Apr 2014
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        #4
        I think I need to upgrade my hifi as the opening was so quiet as to be borderline inaudible. Very fine first movement. The Adagio was taken very slowly but with no loss of pulse and some beautiful phrase shaping . The playing and orchestral balance is superb - one of the best recorded Bruckner symphonies I’ve heard . I do wonder whether that pppp opening would work in the concert hall I just don’t think you’d hear it 20 rows back. I was then interrupted so will listen to scherzo and finale today .

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
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          #5
          Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
          I think I need to upgrade my hifi as the opening was so quiet as to be borderline inaudible. Very fine first movement. The Adagio was taken very slowly but with no loss of pulse and some beautiful phrase shaping . The playing and orchestral balance is superb - one of the best recorded Bruckner symphonies I’ve heard . I do wonder whether that pppp opening would work in the concert hall I just don’t think you’d hear it 20 rows back. I was then interrupted so will listen to scherzo and finale today .
          Your hifi or your ears - the dynamic range of some of these recordings is designed for young ears!

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          • Ein Heldenleben
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            • Apr 2014
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            #6
            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            Your hifi or your ears - the dynamic range of some of these recordings is designed for young ears!
            If so a mistake as the average age of a listener to this will be 55 plus…could always turn up the amp . But on mine the opening notes are almost hiss level…

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            • cloughie
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              • Dec 2011
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              #7
              Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
              If so a mistake as the average age of a listener to this will be 55 plus…could always turn up the amp . But on mine the opening notes are almost hiss level…
              …and you’d probably need to turn it down to avoid damage to ears later!

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
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                #8
                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                …and you’d probably need to turn it down to avoid damage to ears later!
                In fact the ff’s weren’t that loud even though I had things set at my normal listening settings which made me think the level on the master might be lower than normal

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                  In fact the ff’s weren’t that loud even though I had things set at my normal listening settings which made me think the level on the master might be lower than normal
                  I assume it was a BBC recording I wonder if Chandos were involved at the outset or whether they have worked with what the BBC provided?
                  I don’t know how things are arranged!

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
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                    • Apr 2014
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                    #10
                    Yes just looked at booklet - recorded at media city Salford - could have been done by Beeb engineers or Chandos could have dry-hired the studio - can’t tell from the booklet .

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                      Yes just looked at booklet - recorded at media city Salford - could have been done by Beeb engineers or Chandos could have dry-hired the studio - can’t tell from the booklet .
                      Recording producer Mike George
                      Sound engineer Stephen Rinker
                      Assistant engineers Phil Booth (10 July 2012) and Mike Smith (11 July 2012)
                      All appear to have long associations with both BBC and Chandos.

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                      • Cockney Sparrow
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                        • Jan 2014
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                        #12
                        The booklet does have two recording dates, with different sound engineers. Is that last significant? I haven't had time to unravel whether there was a discussion of a live performance at its broadcast, or did they broadcast the recording Chandos had fnalised for issue as a CD/download etc?

                        On Edit - I see Bryn's picked up the same point, but still wonder about what happened in the hall on 10th as opposed to the 11 July......

                        Either way, there's a fruitful collaboration between the BBC orchestras and Chandos. Despite my earlier comment, I may find myself buying the disc....... will listen first though.

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                        • jayne lee wilson
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10711

                          #13
                          The BBC Philharmonic's catalogue with Chandos is vast and very impressive, including much unfamiliar and under-recorded 20thC music. I've been buying their series since the New Broadcasting House Studio 7 days, benefiting from wonderful recordings of Hindemith, Dallapiccola, Petrassi, Roussel....conductors from Tortelier to Noseda and beyond....


                          The BBCSO have done great things with Chandos too, especially the Roberto Gerhard series with Bamert..... the list goes gloriously on with this Bruckner 6...
                          No mystery need be assumed about two dates for the recording of a large symphonic masterwork. Recordings are (or were once) often made this way, to try to make them as good as possible; realising the conductor's vision. Bruckner of all composers takes time to know and get right - especially in such a fastidious reading as this one.
                          Proper Studio Recordings, lovingly and painstakingly crafted..! As opposed to patched-live efforts...

                          *****

                          Once adjusted to a slightly higher volume than usual, I didn't find the dynamic range difficult at either extreme off 24/48 or CD. Climaxes are still very powerful, but open, clear and controlled: very beautiful. I revelled in them.
                          I suspect this is a part of the conductor's bar-by-bar vertical and horizontal conception here, he wants to do far more than just overwhelm with amplitude, steering well clear of the grandiose or monumental.
                          The beginning is extraordinary - the clarity of the initial violin figures carried through against the micro dynamically shaded lower strings with the main theme, the horn so deep in the space behind them; then the wonderful brasses at the climactic statement....

                          I read somewhere that the MediaCity Studio was designed as a sort of upgraded Studio 7 (the venue for so many earlier wonders from the BBCPO & many broadcasts), and it does look quite similar.

                          But the wondrously atmospheric spaciousness, the lovely softness at lower levels, evinces just how adaptable the studio is - in the right technically and musically creative hands of course.
                          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 05-09-21, 15:47.

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                          • Alison
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6459

                            #14
                            Positive review in October Gramophone querying the barely audible pp beginning and the sporadic loss of tension in (ii).

                            Not sure I agree with the Adagio point, fearsome concentration the order of the day, the ear naturally led on.

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                            • BBMmk2
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              I’ll be hearing this recording over the weekend.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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