Liszt: a Faust Symphony

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  • Joseph K
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    • Oct 2017
    • 7765

    #16
    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
    ... I think Haselbock is very good -

    : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MQYMUWD
    It is indeed.

    Also the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra under James Conlon.

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    • vinteuil
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      • Nov 2010
      • 13106

      #17
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      ... I also enjoy the versions for piano duo -



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      EDIT : Faust was not Dante. See #18 infra


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      Last edited by vinteuil; 18-05-21, 15:38.

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 13106

        #18
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        Any recommendations for the Dante Symphony ?
        ... sorry, earlier I must have misread your 'Dante' for Faust'. My bad, as they say. For the Dante I would also recommend Haselbock -



        I also enjoy the version for piano duo -



        This one should be good, but I haven't heard it yet -



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        • MickyD
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          • Nov 2010
          • 4901

          #19
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... sorry, earlier I must have misread your 'Dante' for Faust'. My bad, as they say. For the Dante I would also recommend Haselbock -



          I also enjoy the version for piano duo -



          This one should be good, but I haven't heard it yet -



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          It's very good indeed, as you would expect from those forces!

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          • Jonathan
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            • Mar 2007
            • 960

            #20
            For Faust, I also recommend Haselbock although Rattle's live recording (on modern instruments is very good too). Dante is a bit more problematic, I prefer the recently recorded version by Kirill Karabits and the Staatskapelle Weimar - it has some truly magnificent playing throughout (and you get a very good Tasso and the bonkers Kunstlerfestzug too).

            For two pianos, the Dante on Naxos 8.570516 is very good and I have Faust in 3 versions by different performers - one with Rikako Murata & Pascal Devoyon, the CPO version with Thomas Hitzlberger & Georg Schutz and finally Vittorio Bresciani and Tiziano Polo (which includes Liszt's later variants). All are superb!
            Best regards,
            Jonathan

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              #21
              Don't forget this magisterial edition....

              Qobuz is the world leader in 24-bit Hi-Res downloads, offering more than 100 million tracks for streaming in unequalled sound quality 24-Bit Hi-Res


              Faust on Vol 2, Dante on Vol.5....
              Can't really recall my ratings-against comparatively, but I bought most of these as they released or soon after, excellent sound and very good to great performances, often of little-known music...

              If I had to choose just one for Dante, it would probably be this -


              Stunning sound again, with a thrilling cutting edge to it. Recorded very spaciously (!) in the Cathédrale de Laon... atmospherics apt to aesthetics....baleful brasses, sweetly seductive strings....
              An audiophile as well as a musical classic.
              Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 18-05-21, 18:49.

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              • akiralx
                Full Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 431

                #22
                It was nearly lost - Liszt's teenage pupil Carl Tausig was perpetually broke so sold a stack of used manuscript paper to a scrap paper dealer, only to return home (like most of Liszt's pupils he lived on the premises) to find Liszt ransacking his 30-room home on the Weimar Altenburg searching for the score of A Faust Symphony, as he had received a letter from his publisher that morning asking for it to have it printed. Liszt was shouting 'A year's labour wasted!' while his pupils joined in the search. Presumably his partner Princess Carolyne was saying 'Well, where did you last have it..?'

                It did not take a genius to work out what had happened - it was of course recovered.

                To avoid throttling him, Liszt packed Tausig off to stay with Wagner, who soon wrote back complaining that as well as his thunderous piano playing at all hours, Tausig had consumed all his cheese and biscuits while drinking endless cups of tea. Liszt was in fact quite fond of Tausig, whom he found useful to entertain aristocratic guests late at night when he himself was too tired to play - Tausig would be summoned from his garret and ordered to perform. Occasionally he would respond, 'Actually I'm too tired as well - I was asleep ten minutes ago' which usually threw Liszt into a rage but amused his guests.

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  Don't forget this magisterial edition....

                  Qobuz is the world leader in 24-bit Hi-Res downloads, offering more than 100 million tracks for streaming in unequalled sound quality 24-Bit Hi-Res


                  Faust on Vol 2, Dante on Vol.5....
                  Can't really recall my ratings-against comparatively, but I bought most of these as they released or soon after, excellent sound and very good to great performances, often of little-known music...

                  If I had to choose just one for Dante, it would probably be this -


                  Stunning sound again, with a thrilling cutting edge to it. Recorded very spaciously (!) in the Cathédrale de Laon... atmospherics apt to aesthetics....baleful brasses, sweetly seductive strings....
                  An audiophile as well as a musical classic.

                  Oh, thank you JLW, I didn’t know the FXR, and Les Siecles recurred this work. The only thing I’ll have to bare is Orpheus! I’ll have a listen.
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • MickyD
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 4901

                    #24
                    Les Siècles recorded a number of discs on Editions Actes du Sud (based in the town where I happily reside!) before they recorded for Harmonia Mundi. There are excellent performances of Stravinsky, Saint Saens, Dukas, Dubois among others.

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                    • gurnemanz
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7459

                      #25
                      Originally posted by akiralx View Post
                      It was nearly lost - Liszt's teenage pupil Carl Tausig was perpetually broke so sold a stack of used manuscript paper to a scrap paper dealer, only to return home (like most of Liszt's pupils he lived on the premises) to find Liszt ransacking his 30-room home on the Weimar Altenburg searching for the score of A Faust Symphony, as he had received a letter from his publisher that morning asking for it to have it printed. Liszt was shouting 'A year's labour wasted!' while his pupils joined in the search. Presumably his partner Princess Carolyne was saying 'Well, where did you last have it..?'

                      It did not take a genius to work out what had happened - it was of course recovered.

                      To avoid throttling him, Liszt packed Tausig off to stay with Wagner, who soon wrote back complaining that as well as his thunderous piano playing at all hours, Tausig had consumed all his cheese and biscuits while drinking endless cups of tea. Liszt was in fact quite fond of Tausig, whom he found useful to entertain aristocratic guests late at night when he himself was too tired to play - Tausig would be summoned from his garret and ordered to perform. Occasionally he would respond, 'Actually I'm too tired as well - I was asleep ten minutes ago' which usually threw Liszt into a rage but amused his guests.
                      Thanks for those stories which I greatly enjoyed.

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                      • gurnemanz
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7459

                        #26
                        Of the two CD versions I have - Sinopoli/Dresden and Bernstein/NY - I definitely prefer Lennie but also enjoy Giuseppe despite some reviews slating it. Having followed up a few online recommendations, my favourite by some distance for sound, characterisation and dynamism, which I listened to on Spotify, is now Ivan Fischer with Budapest Festival Orch. As a curiosity, it also contains the original orchestra-only conclusion as well as the now-standard later choral version.

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                        • HighlandDougie
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3142

                          #27
                          Another fine version - LPO/Vladimir Jurowski (almost as good as the performance I heard with him conducting the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment) - can be found in another über-bargain download from 7 Digital:

                          Preview, buy and download high-quality music downloads of Vladimir Jurowski: 10 Years by London Philharmonic Orchestra and Vladimir Jurowski from 7digital United Kingdom - We have over 30 million high quality tracks in our store.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #28
                            Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                            Another fine version - LPO/Vladimir Jurowski (almost as good as the performance I heard with him conducting the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment) - can be found in another über-bargain download from 7 Digital:

                            https://uk.7digital.com/artist/londo...6%2C17%2C9%2C2
                            That's a Hell of a good deal. I have the boxed set of CDs, which cost a great deal more.

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                            • EnemyoftheStoat
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1142

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              That's a Hell of a good deal. I have the boxed set of CDs, which cost a great deal more.
                              I have been known to hang around in the choir seats when the LPO are performing stuff like this...

                              Is there a date for the Faust recording?

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                #30
                                Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                                I have been known to hang around in the choir seats when the LPO are performing stuff like this...

                                Is there a date for the Faust recording?
                                It's a BBC recording from the 2011 Proms, 26th July. Post-production for the CD issue by Andrew Walton of K&A Productions. The FLAC download looks well worth getting, though you miss out on the very swish packaging and programme notes, etc.

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