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  • Cockney Sparrow
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    • Jan 2014
    • 2284

    #46
    One point I would make is that Tom Service is quite a presence on the BBC - Radio and more generally. He is a professional broadcaster but his style of delivery, quite often, is counterproductive in persuading that part of the audience represented by many of us here to listen and take forward the information he is delivering. An interviewer/producer's job is to bring out a non-professional interviewee in the best possible way but the expectation of a guest interviewee is different.

    Where its an introduction to concert items, I'd rather mute the sound and read a source such as Oxford Music online. Where there is useful content to be gained (as in Record Review) I will persist in listening but it is hard work.

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    Not intended, but just as well to move on
    In posting I'm not trying to re-ignite tensions, just expressing my point of view. I'm glad that no member has left the forum or posts needed to be removed..................................

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    • Petrushka
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12254

      #47
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      You assume I'm putting myself down. I had a friend who worked for a while at MI6 and he said I'd make a good spy because I could walk in anywhere and no one would notice me. Some people said they felt really sorry for me - but I thought it one of the most satisfying things anyone had said about me
      Can't beat the friend who worked at MI6 bit but I have the experience of people not noticing I'm there all the time. A cracking example occurred after the interval at one of last year's Proms when the lady sitting next to me turned and asked if I'd been sitting there in the first half. I had, of course, and she was highly embarrassed about it but I didn't mind at all and took it as a compliment. Indeed, like FF, I felt very satisfied that it had amazingly worked again. There are times when it can be very useful.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • jayne lee wilson
        Banned
        • Jul 2011
        • 10711

        #48
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Not intended, but just as well to move on

        PS Team - Jonathan Pearce supports City. Up the Gas! (Is that right?)
        Gasheads are indeed Bristol Rovers fans, but the full story is very interesting......rather like our out, proud and exhilarating reclamation of "queer"...

        https://bristolrovers.fandom.com/wik...e_Rovers_story.

        (Hit "..Bristol Rovers: the Gas and the Rovers"...etc)

        As for disappearing into the background or not being noticed.... My God, as if! It started with being 5'10, and unafraid of expressing myself......(after a miserable teenage of exclusion and trying to hide...)..... I used to go everywhere urban in 3" heels, but a few years ago settled on Vans or Reeboks.
        The shades are always there though.

        Yet as Larkin put it...

        "Life is first boredom, then fear.
        Whether or not we use it, it goes,
        And leaves what something hidden from us chose..."
        Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 09-11-20, 21:48.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30302

          #49
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          As for disappearing into the background or not being noticed.... My God, as if!
          I suspect we ought to be on the Round Ball Game thread, but being a diametric opposite, I've never ventured there as I could only say that the undesirables within glowering distance of me are the neighbourhood cats and the so-called "Mem", a name that could only have been bestowed on the old Memorial Ground, an official war memorial set up as a tribute to the Bristol rugby players who lost their lives during the two world wars, by incomers. My father played for Bristol RFC; 'the Gas' arrived, sold off part of the ground for housing, changed the name to the Memorial Stadium or "Mem", and finally tried to sell the ground to Sainsbury's for a vast supermarket so that they could then decamp with their cash and build a lovely new stadium out of town. And leaving our area with an unwanted supermarket threatening the livelihoods of all the small businesses that line one of the longest independent shopping streets in the country.

          Glower?! Oh, yes, I do. Very fiercely indeed.

          PS Just waiting for someone to say, "Well, I don't suppose anyone notices."
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22127

            #50
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            I suspect we ought to be on the Round Ball Game thread, but being a diametric opposite, I've never ventured there as I could only say that the undesirables within glowering distance of me are the neighbourhood cats and the so-called "Mem", a name that could only have been bestowed on the old Memorial Ground, an official war memorial set up as a tribute to the Bristol rugby players who lost their lives during the two world wars, by incomers. My father played for Bristol RFC; 'the Gas' arrived, sold off part of the ground for housing, changed the name to the Memorial Stadium or "Mem", and finally tried to sell the ground to Sainsbury's for a vast supermarket so that they could then decamp with their cash and build a lovely new stadium out of town. And leaving our area with an unwanted supermarket threatening the livelihoods of all the small businesses that line one of the longest independent shopping streets in the country.

            Glower?! Oh, yes, I do. Very fiercely indeed.

            PS Just waiting for someone to say, "Well, I don't suppose anyone notices."
            What is on the site of the Eastville ground now? ...and of course Rovers played in exile in Bath for a few years.

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            • Leinster Lass
              Banned
              • Oct 2020
              • 1099

              #51
              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              What is on the site of the Eastville ground now? ...and of course Rovers played in exile in Bath for a few years.
              I think it's an IKEA superstore (what else?)

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              • Leinster Lass
                Banned
                • Oct 2020
                • 1099

                #52
                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                Gasheads are indeed Bristol Rovers fans, but the full story is very interesting......rather like our out, proud and exhilarating reclamation of "queer"...

                https://bristolrovers.fandom.com/wik...e_Rovers_story.

                (Hit "..Bristol Rovers: the Gas and the Rovers"...etc)

                As for disappearing into the background or not being noticed.... My God, as if! It started with being 5'10, and unafraid of expressing myself......(after a miserable teenage of exclusion and trying to hide...)..... I used to go everywhere urban in 3" heels, but a few years ago settled on Vans or Reeboks.
                The shades are always there though.

                Yet as Larkin put it...

                "Life is first boredom, then fear.
                Whether or not we use it, it goes,
                And leaves what something hidden from us chose..."
                What an amazing coincidence - I've been 5'10" for years (just in case anybody's interested), but it has never bothered me or caused me any problems, I'm pleased to say!
                I buy my footwear online from a company called Chums.
                'The Whitsun Weddings' is one of my two favourite poems, the other being 'Adlestrop'.
                I very much enjoyed my teenage years on the whole.
                Nice to have the chance to compare and contrast experiences!

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30302

                  #53
                  Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                  I think it's an IKEA superstore (what else?)
                  Oh, is that where the Rovers ground used to be? That Ikea building is a nightmare. You can get in quite easily but it's near impossible to find the way out again. EV'rybody says that. I escaped once and haven't been back since.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22127

                    #54
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    Oh, is that where the Rovers ground used to be? That Ikea building is a nightmare. You can get in quite easily but it's near impossible to find the way out again. EV'rybody says that. I escaped once and haven't been back since.
                    As a Bristolian I thought you would know - though Rovers only left there in 1986 and it finally closed as a greyhound track in 1997. Checking on wiki indeed confirms the IKEA store. For a long time it was the most westerly IKEA and my CD shelves were purchased there in 2008.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30302

                      #55
                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      As a Bristolian I thought you would know - though Rovers only left there in 1986 and it finally closed as a greyhound track in 1997. Checking on wiki indeed confirms the IKEA store. For a long time it was the most westerly IKEA and my CD shelves were purchased there in 2008.
                      You know how you can live in Hampstead and never have visited Balham? We weren't a football family. I went to the Memorial Ground with my father to watch Bristol when they were a side (amateur) to be reckoned with. And I went to Twickenham a number of times. Though to retain my credibility, when I was about nine someone once got me the autographs of all the then current Rovers' team. I remember Geoff Bradford (centre forward), George Petherbridge (some sort of back I think) and Bert Tann (good old Bert) who I think might have been the goalkeeper. [No, I've just googled - he was manager]. As I said we were a rugby family.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • jayne lee wilson
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        #56
                        Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                        What an amazing coincidence - I've been 5'10" for years (just in case anybody's interested), but it has never bothered me or caused me any problems, I'm pleased to say!
                        I buy my footwear online from a company called Chums.
                        'The Whitsun Weddings' is one of my two favourite poems, the other being 'Adlestrop'.
                        I very much enjoyed my teenage years on the whole.
                        Nice to have the chance to compare and contrast experiences!
                        Sisters IN the skin then, as well as, I hope, under it....

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37692

                          #57
                          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                          Sisters IN the skin then, as well as, I hope, under it....


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                          • Leinster Lass
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2020
                            • 1099

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            We are all sisters, brother - except for the blokes, that is.
                            I've got way too many Sinatra CDs, but the other S's on the shelf will just have to remain bunched up and accept the fact that, when it came to deciding whose was the Voice Of The (20th) Century, for me it was a very close-run thing between Francis Albert and Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau.

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22127

                              #59
                              Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                              We are all sisters, brother - except for the blokes, that is.
                              I've got way too many Sinatra CDs, but the other S's on the shelf will just have to remain bunched up and accept the fact that, when it came to deciding whose was the Voice Of The (20th) Century, for me it was a very close-run thing between Francis Albert and Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau.
                              What about the other Frankie:

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                              • Leinster Lass
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2020
                                • 1099

                                #60
                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                What about the other Frankie:

                                https://youtu.be/xSpyqTjztwM
                                Before clicking on your link, not realizing that you were thinking of another version of the same song, I ran through a list of possible candidates - The One Who Went To Hollywood? 'Titter-ye-not' Howerd? Avalon? Vaughan? Laine?
                                Are you a close-harmony sort of chap, by any chance? I'm a big Man Tran Fan (better that than a ManU fan, I guess).

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