Beethoven 9 and Missa Solemnis BRSO/Kubelik live on Orfeo

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
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    Beethoven 9 and Missa Solemnis BRSO/Kubelik live on Orfeo

    Rob Cowan raved about this bargain priced 2CD set released by Orfeo last autumn and it was. Gramophone Editor’s Choice .

    I have not listened to MS yet - plan to tomorrow - but it is a fabulous Ninth and the finale is one of the best sung I have ever heard both by choir and the terrific solo quartet of Donath , Fassbaender , Laubenthal and Sotin ( the latter two are replaced by Schreier and JSQ on the Missa ) .

    Very highly recommended for the Ninth at least so far.
  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12145

    #2
    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Rob Cowan raved about this bargain priced 2CD set released by Orfeo last autumn and it was. Gramophone Editor’s Choice .

    I have not listened to MS yet - plan to tomorrow - but it is a fabulous Ninth and the finale is one of the best sung I have ever heard both by choir and the terrific solo quartet of Donath , Fassbaender , Laubenthal and Sotin ( the latter two are replaced by Schreier and JSQ on the Missa ) .

    Very highly recommended for the Ninth at least so far.
    I wholeheartedly second both RC's and your recommendation. I've had these CDs for several years since their original separate issue on the Orfeo label and they are indeed excellent.

    Just double checked and see that the 9th Symphony was issued in 1989 and the MS in 1994! Can it really be that long ago?!
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11518

      #3
      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
      I wholeheartedly second both RC's and your recommendation. I've had these CDs for several years since their original separate issue on the Orfeo label and they are indeed excellent.

      Just double checked and see that the 9th Symphony was issued in 1989 and the MS in 1994! Can it really be that long ago?!
      Interesting , strange that RC made no reference to Lionel Salter’s equally rave review from August 1990 on Gramophone.

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      • gradus
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        The Credo with Jansons conducting the same orchestra featured in CotW on Friday and that sounded remarkably fine too.

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        • BBMmk2
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #5
          Originally posted by gradus View Post
          The Credo with Jansons conducting the same orchestra featured in CotW on Friday and that sounded remarkably fine too.
          I don’t know either version!
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11518

            #6
            Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
            I don’t know either version!
            These recordings BBM only £11 or so from Presto

            Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 & Missa solemnis (Live). Orfeo: MP1804. Buy download online. Helen Donath (soprano), Brigitte Fassbaender (mezzo-soprano), Horst Rüdiger Laubenthal (tenor), Hans Sotin (bass), Peter Schreier (tenor), John Shirley-Quirk (bass-baritone) Chor des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Rafael Kubelík

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by gradus View Post
              The Credo with Jansons conducting the same orchestra featured in CotW on Friday and that sounded remarkably fine too.
              As far as I know, Jansons has not recorded the Missa Solemnis. The CotW website https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hx7b lists the Giulini recording of the Missa Solemnis as the one played with Jansons contributing the 9th finale.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • gradus
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                You're absolutely right, memory malfunction on my part.

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  The Missa Solemnis is marvellous too. Bargain of bargains this set.

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                  • BBMmk2
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                    These recordings BBM only £11 or so from Presto

                    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...-solemnis-live
                    A bargain!
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • BBMmk2
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      These recordings BBM only £11 or so from Presto

                      https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...-solemnis-live
                      I’ve reserved it on amazon!
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • Alison
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6435

                        #12
                        Ordered!

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                        • Petrushka
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Alison View Post
                          Ordered!
                          You won't have any cause to regret the purchase, Alison. Still can't believe I've had these two discs for 30 years!
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • Alison
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6435

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            You won't have any cause to regret the purchase, Alison. Still can't believe I've had these two discs for 30 years!
                            A rather unusual but welcome coupling.

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                            • BBMmk2
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Alison View Post
                              A rather unusual but welcome coupling.
                              Yes but, in many ways, I found after listening, via Spotify, that it was a very apt coupling. A very enjoyable 2.5hrs or so listen.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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