16.02.19 - Berlioz 5 essential works in must-have recordings

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  • BBMmk2
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    • Nov 2010
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    #46
    Originally posted by Conchis View Post
    This gives me the excuse to repeat my favourite George Szell story, as recounted by John Culshaw in Putting The Record Straight:

    Szell's Decca contract was up for renewal and Maurice Rosengarten was hoping to get one over on him. But Szell breezed into the meeting, sat down and, before Rosengarten had a chance to speak, said: 'Mr. Rosengarten - I have known you for many years as a man of culture and a man of enlightenment . A man with thoroughly civilised values who believes in the life of the mind . I, by contrast, am a simple businessman whose only concern is money. Here are my terms which, needless to add, are not subject to negotiation.'

    Rosengarten was so winded that Szell got exactly what he wanted.
    Brilliant!
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      #47
      Originally posted by mikealdren View Post

      The late Martin Milner (the very fine Hallé leader) had an agreement that he never played in concerts with Tchaikovsky symphonies, he had just played them too often.
      The first ever concert I attanded had MM as leader, with Tchaik 6 as the final work. Presumably this was before his "agreement".

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11694

        #48
        Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
        I'm amazed she didn't think Saint Saens could write a tune, I think he was a very tuneful composer. As to Elgar's orchestration, his string writing is superb, can't comment on the harp parts though.

        The late Martin Milner (the very fine Hallé leader) had an agreement that he never played in concerts with Tchaikovsky symphonies, he had just played them too often.
        The parts for harp in the Larghetto of the Second Symphony sound marvellous and far from “ lousy”

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
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          #49
          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
          Whatever happened to Michael Davis? I know he led the BBC Symphony after leaving the London Symphony Orchestra but he seemed to disappear.
          Retired I assume - he was born in 1941 I think judging by a N Y Times story I found from 1963 on the net.

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          • Stanfordian
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            • Dec 2010
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            #50
            Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
            Whatever happened to Michael Davis? I know he led the BBC Symphony after leaving the London Symphony Orchestra but he seemed to disappear.
            That's taking me back. Indeed I do remember Michael Davis - LSO Leader 1979–86. He seemed to be on tv a lot back then; one who liked the tv camera and the camera liked him.

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            • pastoralguy
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              • Nov 2010
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              #51
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              Retired I assume - he was born in 1941 I think judging by a N Y Times story I found from 1963 on the net.
              Thanks for that, Barbi. My goodness, how time flys!

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              • mikealdren
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                • Nov 2010
                • 1200

                #52
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                Retired I assume - he was born in 1941 I think judging by a N Y Times story I found from 1963 on the net.
                He'll be retired now but I think he went back to the Hallé after the BBC and yes, he did lead the Tchaik symphonies that MM didn't want to, MM was the more senior and had the choice (and the Hallé Strad).

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                • edashtav
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                  • Jul 2012
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
                  He'll be retired now but I think he went back to the Hallé after the BBC and yes, he did lead the Tchaik symphonies that MM didn't want to, MM was the more senior and had the choice (and the Hallé Strad).
                  The BBC website records that Mike Davis was born in 1937 and, sadly, died in 2008

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by edashtav View Post
                    The BBC website records that Mike Davis was born in 1937 and, sadly, died in 2008
                    I found reference to a Michael Davis with those dates who died in the US but the obit was odd as it mentioned him having led American orchestras and the SNO but said nothing about the Halle ,BBCSO or LSO .

                    It said he was born in Hull but the pictures did not look the man I remembered from a documentary about the LSO.

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                    • verismissimo
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #55
                      Anyone pick up the 5?

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                      • Lat-Literal
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                        • Aug 2015
                        • 6983

                        #56
                        I have been struggling somewhat with R3's weekend of "he's only ok" Berlioz immersion.

                        We will have more of this at the Proms.

                        However, I enjoyed these inventive surprises on Record Review:

                        Sebastian Koolhoven
                        Au Suivant
                        Performer: Flex Ensemble.
                        Au Suivant! Ravel, Fauré: Chansons for Piano Quartet. CAvi-music. 7.

                        Nicolas Gombert
                        Media Vita
                        Choir: El León de Oro. Director: Peter Philips.
                        Hyperion.

                        Friedrich Gulda

                        Concerto for Cello, Wind & band Op.129: V. Finale
                        Performer: Edgar Moreau. Ensemble: Les Forces Majeures. Conductor: Raphaël Merlin.
                        Erato.

                        ……...and, minimal knowledge of Parry to the fore, I was astonished that this was by him.

                        Really excellent!

                        Hubert Parry
                        Piano trio, No.3 in G major: III. Lento
                        Ensemble: Leonore Piano Trio.
                        Hyperion.

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                        • vinteuil
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12843

                          #57
                          Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                          Anyone pick up the 5?
                          ... I share your exasperation : ca'n't find the chosen five on the bbc website.

                          I think there was :

                          the Symphonie Fantastique with Daniel Harding
                          Romeo et Juliette with Charles Munch
                          I don't know which performers for les Nuits d'été *
                          Béatrice et Bénédict with Colin Davis, the philips recording [ no : it was Benvenuto Cellini (thanks, Howdenite...) ]
                          and the Nelson les Troyens .


                          *The Nuits d'Été was with Veronique Gens, with Louis Langrée & Lyon Opera [... thanks, LeMartinPecheur and ostuni. ]




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                          Last edited by vinteuil; 17-02-19, 11:29.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #58
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... I share your exasperation : ca'n't find the chosen five on the bbc website.

                            I think there was :

                            the Symphonie Fantastique with Daniel Harding
                            Romeo et Juliette with Charles Munch
                            I don't know which performers for les Nuits d'été *
                            Béatrice et Bénédict with Colin Davis, the philips recording [ no : it was Benvenuto Cellini (thanks, Howdenite...) ]
                            and the Nelson les Troyens .


                            *The Nuits d'Été was with Veronique Gens, with Louis Langrée & Lyon Opera [... thanks, LeMartinPecheur and ostuni. ]
                            They have now got round to sorting out the listing for last Saturday's Record Review.

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                            • Cockney Sparrow
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                              • Jan 2014
                              • 2284

                              #59
                              I've got the impression that, with regard to the iPlayer, little gets sorted out between Friday afternoon and Monday morning. Like doctors. Presumably they only have very limited tech staff over the weekend because those folks don't like working weekends.

                              So, in the case of programmes that should be available on the iPlayer but aren't, check on Tues/Wens (and later) having reported the fault (I always report as a complaint, so it gets into the stats - I hope).
                              Last edited by Cockney Sparrow; 18-02-19, 14:07.

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