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  • jayne lee wilson
    Banned
    • Jul 2011
    • 10711

    NEW RELEASE OF THE DAY - Lintu Luto Lotto Winno!

    LUTOSłAWSKI Symphonies 1 & 4; JeuX Vénitiens. Finnish Radio SO/Hannu Lintu. ONDINE 24/96. Qobuz Studio Stream.

    Symphonies 1 and 4 aren’t usually the devoted Lutosławskian’s favourite symphonic works. Such status is usually reserved for the twin modernist/melodist peaks of 2 and 3.
    Well, here’s a stunning album that might change that…

    The 4th can at first seem baffling; it has a flowing continuity, yet seems to lack an obvious sense of direction….that slinky clarinet solo promising so much, which in too many hands never quite seems to arrive. Climactic passages culminate, then dissipate; a metallic scherzo strikes sparks, then cools and dissolves… ….the line seems lost in textural fantasy, mechanical birdcalls…
    Yet we do finally arrive - somewhere; with clinching power and…playfulness.

    The at once flowing yet episodic structure needs firm guidance and it gets that here, more convincingly than I’ve heard from any other: it’s the tightly cohesive sense of pace through tension and release, the assured swerving into huge dynamic swings and climaxes that make Hannu Lintu’s performance so compelling. He nurtures and caresses - then takes it by the scruff. A Luto 4th in a single breath? You’d better believe it.


    And don’t worry, it has the range: colouristic fantasy, the delicate traceries, the crushing power, more convincingly recorded and imaginatively played than I’ve yet heard (listen to those mini- brass, piano and wind cadenzas toward the centre of the work, or those three violins drifting across vanishing-point clarinet and pitched percussion near the end; that eerie avian colloquy (he even finds the pulse in their dialoguing): breathtakingly delicate, in fabulously soft, tangible hi-res sound (no previous recording has ever shown us this much); the 4th is to some degree another Concerto for Orchestra).
    But Lintu makes these vividly characterised episodes part of his eagle-eye view of the symphonic sweep, (that long singing melody is very clearly followed-through) gauging speed and power and pouncing on the prey of his climaxes with unerring accuracy and excitement.
    Lintu’s given me the 4th I’d always hoped was there, hidden beneath the bafflements, failures and partial successes of earlier recordings. (Whatever I compared, I found disappointment or newly reduced status).

    For once, you really want to go straight back to start…
    (my previous favourite, Kaspzsyk on Accord, sounded cooler, monochrome, almost too epic (no, really) by comparison; stretched out, harder to follow, despite its many beauties)…

    ***
    No.1 is, of course, a little too obviously modelled on its great Roussellian inspiration (it is Roussel’s 5th, in a way that Brahms 1st was never Beethoven’s 10th); but for me it now seems fresher than the ubiquitous Concerto for Orchestra, which always loses my sympathy in the playing-to-the-gallery of the finale; all too shameless, like all those conductors who rush to give us their precious version. Enough already!

    Again Lintu gives a marvellous rendition of No.1, with terrific colour, character and structural awareness; sparkling textures, and a keen rhythmic attack; a poco adagio of remarkable sensuousness, depth and power; a suave, mischievous scherzo.. The bright open-eyed freshness of Lutosławskian orchestral youth is given an extra dimension - in fact, benefitting from the more clearly revealed Roussellian input.
    For me this sets new standards: simply the best recording of a work I’m very fond of both for itself and its Roussellian echoes. Nothing to be ashamed about, indeed. (And sound to die for.)
    (Previous favourites: Luto’s EMI Polish reading has all the passion, not always the polish; Skrowacewski on Accord is - spacious, coolly beautiful if a little distanced, emotionally; I think the newcomer beats them both out - it’s terrific).

    ***
    The Venetian Games are as much fun as ever, this version mainly impressive for the wildly hilarious impact of its last section - hi-res wow! But I always wonder why Luto’s own EMI Polish one is so much more eventful and substantial than any other; more compellingly expressive too. For me, it still remains unsurpassed.
    Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 17-11-18, 02:25.
  • Richard Barrett
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    • Jan 2016
    • 6259

    #2
    I gave this a listen hoping that it would finally get me onto Lutoslawski's wavelength, given my admiration for Lintu's Ligeti and Berio CDs, but no, his music still does nothing for me. I thought it was beautifully played though.

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25209

      #3
      Thanks for the recommendation.
      If I have heard Lutoslawski 1 before, I wasn’t paying very close attention. This recording kept me pretty engrossed though, not least because I kept getting reminders, of Malcom Arnold , which was rather unexpected. Some of that very obvious , in your face playfulness that quickly reverts to something more serious. Reminders also in some of the string lines in the first movement,and in the brass and woodwind in the fourth movement. No idea what , if any shared influence there might be though. Excellent recording, will try the rest of the disc later in the weekend.
      Inought to go out of my way to hear more by Lintu, I was very impressed with him when standing in at late notice at the RFH a few years ago.
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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37678

        #4
        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        Thanks for the recommendation.
        If I have heard Lutoslawski 1 before, I wasn’t paying very close attention. This recording kept me pretty engrossed though, not least because I kept getting reminders, of Malcom Arnold , which was rather unexpected. Some of that very obvious , in your face playfulness that quickly reverts to something more serious. Reminders also in some of the string lines in the first movement,and in the brass and woodwind in the fourth movement. No idea what , if any shared influence there might be though. Excellent recording, will try the rest of the disc later in the weekend.
        Inought to go out of my way to hear more by Lintu, I was very impressed with him when standing in at late notice at the RFH a few years ago.
        I noticed that Arnold soundalike too, and it came as a real surprise to me! Also, Bartok was an influence on the first symphony - and a longlasting one, right through the "Stalinist" period and into the post-serial works of the 1960s, probably totally absorbed into Luto's identity by the Cello Concerto of 1970. If Richard is looking for a solid (in the best senses) example of Lutoslawski at his best, the pathbreaking Musique Funèbre for a large body of strings, of 1958, dedicated to Bartok's memory, is a good starting place.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #5
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          If Richard is looking for a solid (in the best senses) example of Lutoslawski at his best, the pathbreaking Musique Funèbre for a large body of strings, of 1958, dedicated to Bartok's memory, is a good starting place.
          I wouldn't say that Musique Funebre is "Lutoslawski at his best", S_A, much as I enjoy it - it's a bit of a "straight line" piece: starts quietly, builds up gradually, reaches an impassioned climax, dies down, fades out; a "Grand Old Duke of York" structure.

          I think his "best" (most inventive and exploratory) Music is found in the Second Symphony, the String Quartet, and the Trois Poemes d'Henri Michaux - but I love most of his music from the Concerto for Orchestra onward. (Not so keen on the First Symphony, though - it's not a "bad" work, but a bit "anonymous".)
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          • BBMmk2
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            #6
            I don’t know these works very well, so be a very good listen! You would make a very good BaL critic!
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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #7
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              I wouldn't say that Musique Funebre is "Lutoslawski at his best", S_A, much as I enjoy it - it's a bit of a "straight line" piece: starts quietly, builds up gradually, reaches an impassioned climax, dies down, fades out; a "Grand Old Duke of York" structure.

              I think his "best" (most inventive and exploratory) Music is found in the Second Symphony, the String Quartet, and the Trois Poemes d'Henri Michaux - but I love most of his music from the Concerto for Orchestra onward. (Not so keen on the First Symphony, though - it's not a "bad" work, but a bit "anonymous".)
              TBF 2 S_A, he said solid. And indeed it is (I love your Duke of York ref). But I would 100% agree that the triptych you identify is a defo way in. If one is still not convinced, it's safe to say one doesn't dig Luto.

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
                • 37678

                #8
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                I wouldn't say that Musique Funebre is "Lutoslawski at his best", S_A, much as I enjoy it - it's a bit of a "straight line" piece: starts quietly, builds up gradually, reaches an impassioned climax, dies down, fades out; a "Grand Old Duke of York" structure.

                I think his "best" (most inventive and exploratory) Music is found in the Second Symphony, the String Quartet, and the Trois Poemes d'Henri Michaux - but I love most of his music from the Concerto for Orchestra onward. (Not so keen on the First Symphony, though - it's not a "bad" work, but a bit "anonymous".)
                Fair comments all.

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                • Richard Barrett
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                  • Jan 2016
                  • 6259

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  If one is still not convinced, it's safe to say one doesn't dig Luto.
                  Well of course over the years I've heard pretty much all of his oeuvre, some of it many times, so unfamiliarity is not the problem. I thought I might have been convinced a bit by this CD because I expected it to be superbly performed and recorded, which it is. So I agree with Jayne in so far as if this is the kind of thing you think you might like, you'll probably like it a lot. For the rest, I think putting on the 1st symphony rather than the 2nd was a missed opportunity, since then it would have probably been the best possible introduction to WL's work.

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                  • Dave2002
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 18015

                    #10
                    Is this on Qobuz? I can't find it. Maybe JLW can give us some hints as to how/where we can find the recordings she's so enthusiastic about right now.

                    Ah - maybe it's not available on the cheapskate's stream!

                    I assumed everything was/is, but just at different (lower) quality levels.

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                      Is this on Qobuz? I can't find it. Maybe JLW can give us some hints as to how/where we can find the recordings she's so enthusiastic about right now.

                      Ah - maybe it's not available on the cheapskate's stream!

                      I assumed everything was/is, but just at different (lower) quality levels.
                      Listen to unlimited or download Lutosławski : Symphonies Nos. 1 and 4 & Jeux vénitiens by Hannu Lintu in Hi-Res quality on Qobuz. Subscription from £10.83/month.


                      That from Googling "qobuz lutoslawski".

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                      • jayne lee wilson
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        Well of course over the years I've heard pretty much all of his oeuvre, some of it many times, so unfamiliarity is not the problem. I thought I might have been convinced a bit by this CD because I expected it to be superbly performed and recorded, which it is. So I agree with Jayne in so far as if this is the kind of thing you think you might like, you'll probably like it a lot. For the rest, I think putting on the 1st symphony rather than the 2nd was a missed opportunity, since then it would have probably been the best possible introduction to WL's work.
                        Well one hopes they'll come to that! And if Lintu's 2 and 3 were on the same level, well then....personally I'd love to see Lintu do the ​Livre pour Orchestra, perhaps c/w No.2, as Luto's own EMI one has never been matched for sheer intensity. It's surprising how few alternatives there are of many Lutosławski works. Symphonies 2 and 3 keep grabbing the attention of recording artists...... not to mention the Concerto for Orchestra...(at the last count...)

                        But I think Ondine simply saw the 1/4 c/w as the less obvious, more creatively, renewingly useful and interesting option... neither have been recorded often and (after listening to most other recordings over the last few days!) rarely to any degree of excellence...

                        ps - Dave 2K2 - I find most of these New Releases on the Qobuz/Audirvana Discover page which updates each Friday (or late Thursday night...!) but I'll try to remember to put a link in later... simplest: check New Releases on the Qobuz site itself under "classical")
                        https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/shop
                        Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 17-11-18, 16:10.

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                        • pastoralguy
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7758

                          #13
                          From the little I heard this morning, Andrew seemed very enthusiastic about this new recording on Record Review . Alas, I was driving at the time but it seemed to be a winner!

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                          • jayne lee wilson
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 10711

                            #14
                            I can’t pick up those Arnold resonances myself, but If you don’t know it, or not well, you must listen closely to Roussel’s 3rd (surely a welcome chore!), to recognise (with an indulgent smile) the closely similar shaping and character of Luto’s first movement compared to the Roussel first movement (the climax is, well, a bit of a steal), and the shape and character of the adagio as well.

                            Listen to the scherzos of Roussel 3 and 4 (especially its 2nd strand), then the Lutosławski.
                            Note the picking out of those brief trumpet solos. I do recall Luto mentioning this composer as a formative influence, on Radio 3 back in the day; he seems to have learnt a lot from Roussel about orchestral colour and layering - sheer playfulness co-existing with depth. The influence is all over the piece really - It seems pretty clear to this devoted Roussellina, anyway.
                            I’d go so far as to say that you won’t really understand Lutosławski’s 1st until you know the Roussel 3rd. (There’s some wide-ranging 20thC historical crosslights in there - as in my latest obsession Maderna, early works composed late 40s early 50s, another tale.)…
                            It’s fascinating and touching to hear Luto’s own voice emerging sometimes from within that force-field, especially in the finale which often anticipates the Concerto for Orchestra..

                            I just found this insightful piece, showing how a main theme in Luto 1 (i) is modelled on the Roussel 3 motto…(and much else..).
                            The commonly accepted score line is Roussel 3, Lutosławski 1.  Or, in musical parlance, Roussel’s Third Symphony is usually linked with Lutosławski’s First.  Lutosławski himself laid em…


                            But it’s amazing how long you can live without recognising who your true favourites are isn’t it? Lutosławski’s been at the heart of my musical universe for years really. I never quite saw how intensely until now, thanks to Maestro Lintu.
                            ***
                            (NDRSO/Urbanski 4th - slightly distanced ( I feel the 4th benefits from closer focus), seems to lack colour or character early on, misses the wonderful sense of timing and follow-through Lintu so specially creates. Great final climax and coda(s) though! (even if those violins/marimbas etc. are a bit too explicit).
                            Should hear it again with volume well up, longterm thinking in mind…)
                            Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 17-11-18, 19:50.

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                            • Dave2002
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 18015

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/lu.../jpcsadgju4t0b

                              That from Googling "qobuz lutoslawski".
                              Yes, but it doesn't open up the Qobuz player in my quality level - or is there some software fix? I tried searching with Qobuz to no avail - trawled through lots of other recordings and couldn't find the new one.

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