Brahms Violin Concerto

[BBMmk2]

I have the Kennedy/Tennstedt and a couple of others, can’t think off hand.

[pastoralguy]

Hi PG,
try the recording, HH can be visually very unemotional in live performance but she channels it all into the sound and (for me) her recording is superb. She has the sort of elegance and purity that was a hallmark Grumiaux and like him, she is less good in more overtly romantic concerti like the Elgar where I agree with Barbs.

Hi Mike. I've always been very impressed with Ms. Hahn when I've seen her live but that Elgar performance was a bit puzzling. Obviously, it was technically stunning but she did seem to hold the work at arms length a wee bit. I've got all her CDs and she's a wonderful player.

The last time I heard her was in Dundee where she played the Tchaikovsky Concerto as a warm up for a tour with the RSNO. A friend in the Orchestra told me they gave eight performances of the Tchaikovsky and and every single one was identical!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Whooops!

I prefer to read the score than to hear most recordings, which tend to lower the temperature and sluggern the tempi from what I understand from the text blahblah yacketyYak blahblah ad inf

In my continued search for a recording which matches the pace and drama of the Heifetz/Reiner, I discovered this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Violin-Concerto-Mono-Version/dp/B00KW9SBZ0

... now that's more like it!

[Joseph K]

Reading the score, ferney?

I have to say, I greatly admire people who can reproduce the sounds of an entire orchestra/orchestral score in their head!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Reading the score, ferney?
I have to say, I greatly admire people who can reproduce the sounds of an entire orchestra/orchestral score in their head!

It's a cinch with works that I know as well as the Brahms Violin Concerto - I felt inordinately smug when I saw the full score of Birtwistle's Gawain before the first performances, and the sound I had imagined came to "life" in the performance; but then, I knew Birtwistle's idiom, and the Earth Dances, which has a similar "cast" to the opening of Gawain. (I am awaiting delivery of the score to La Terre est un Homme - that should sort the wood from the trees! )

[Joseph K]

It's a cinch with works that I know as well as the Brahms Violin Concerto - I felt inordinately smug when I saw the full score of Birtwistle's Gawain before the first performances, and the sound I had imagined came to "life" in the performance; but then, I knew Birtwistle's idiom, and the Earth Dances, which has a similar "cast" to the opening of Gawain. (I am awaiting delivery of the score to La Terre est un Homme - that should sort the wood from the trees! )

I'm still working on two-part species counterpoint exercises.

[pastoralguy]

How I envy you, Ferney! I can follow a score but actually hear it? Not a chance. I can follow certain lines in a horizontal way but as to hearing the harmonies- no way!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

How I envy you, Ferney! I can follow a score but actually hear it? Not a chance. I can follow certain lines in a horizontal way but as to hearing the harmonies- no way!

Same here.

[Pulcinella]

How I envy you, Ferney! I can follow a score but actually hear it? Not a chance. I can follow certain lines in a horizontal way but as to hearing the harmonies- no way!

It's those wretched different clefs and transposing instruments that do it (i.e., make it virtually impossible to 'hear' the harmonies) for me! Stravinsky's Requiem Canticles has instruments written at actual pitch (except the piccolo), which helps!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

It's those wretched different clefs and transposing instruments that do it (i.e., make it virtually impossible to 'hear' the harmonies) for me!

Oh, crumbs, yes. "In Eb" instruments are a doddle (just pretend it's a bass clef) - but the "in A"s and "in D"s need checking. And then the Alto and Tenor clefs! (And the Soprano clefs in the Dover Bach Cantata scores ... )

[Barbirollians]

After being very taken with the Krebbers/Haitink Beethoven VC I have ordered a second hand copy of his Brahms.

[Barbirollians]

Having listened to the Krebbers/Haitink a few times I think it is a notch below their very lovely Beethoven record though still very good. Coming back to Menuhin in this concerto both his stereo recording with Kempe and his 1943 BBC recording with Boult both have an extraordinary charge .

[Barbirollians]

Rather impressed recently by the live Mullova/Abbado in the 3CD set of her concerto recordings which includes her BAL winning Stravinsky.
one of her very best records I think.

[jayne lee wilson]

I posted this a few days ago, New Release......more I hear it, the more memorable, poetic and compelling it gets....

Utterly irresistible, craggily intense, such a contrast drawn between the dark and the songful....Yes its on the edge sometimes, takes risks, frightens the horses in ways the the horses might even enjoy - But my word it brings the piece to life! Winds and brass singing and soaring!

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  Mes favoris
  Cet élément a bien été ajouté / retiré de vos favorisBrahms: Violin Concerto in D Major, Op. 77
  (Live in Utrecht, 9/30/2003)
  
  Frans Brüggen, Orchestra Of The 18th Century, Thomas Zehetmair
  • Released on 02/07/2021 by Glossa
  • Main artist: Thomas Zehetmair
  • QOBUZ 24-Bit 44.1 kHz - Stereo
  • Back in the good old Vredenburg again, not everyone's favourite , vividly recorded, but you may need a higher volume setting than usual to bring out power and detail....(no details on the violin, but just listen to the cadenza to (i)! Then the warmth leading into the coda as the orchestra returns... ).
  
  

[Barbirollians]

I posted this a few days ago, New Release......more I hear it, the more memorable, poetic and compelling it gets....

Utterly irresistible, craggily intense, such a contrast drawn between the dark and the songful....Yes its on the edge sometimes, takes risks, frightens the horses in ways the the horses might even enjoy - But my word it brings the piece to life! Winds and brass singing and soaring!

• 
  Mes favoris
  Cet élément a bien été ajouté / retiré de vos favorisBrahms: Violin Concerto in D Major, Op. 77
  (Live in Utrecht, 9/30/2003)
  
  Frans Brüggen, Orchestra Of The 18th Century, Thomas Zehetmair
  • Released on 02/07/2021 by Glossa
  • Main artist: Thomas Zehetmair
  • QOBUZ 24-Bit 44.1 kHz - Stereo
  • Back in the good old Vredenburg again, not everyone's favourite , vividly recorded, but you may need a higher volume setting than usual to bring out power and detail....(no details on the violin, but just listen to the cadenza to (i)! Then the warmth leading into the coda as the orchestra returns... ).
  
  

Their Beethoven on the Philips set is very good so this sounds promising.