Martin Handley & Tom McKinney

[Paulie55]

.......talking over each other like a couple of nattering fishwives. It's as if we're intruding upon some personal conversation that has nothing to do with us, the listeners. Why do so many presenters talk so fast and so much? Are they innately fond of their own voices? The whole morning needs a drastic replanning. Radio 3 has become a Presenters' Club.

[Cockney Sparrow]

.......talking over each other like a couple of nattering fishwives. It's as if we're intruding upon some personal conversation that has nothing to do with us, the listeners. Why do so many presenters talk so fast and so much? Are they innately fond of their own voices? The whole morning needs a drastic replanning. Radio 3 has become a Presenters' Club.

I very much appreciate Martin Handley's voice (authority, knowledgeable, a degree of familiarity or perhaps engagement - what I look for from a R3 presenter). I'll regret the day when he is not presenting.

I don't have much to say about Tom McKinney - he used to turn up on Sunday morning (when I was evading the Morning service on R4 in particular) and his presentation was anonymous and lacking in authority although this morning (listening to Rec Rev where he is discussing vocal releases) he does appear to have, at the least, read the CD notes and listened to the music so (in contrast to Sunday morning) he doesn't come over as someone accosted in the corridors at Salford (I think Salford, but I may be wrong) and told "Look, I need cover on this program, so here's the details, you can present it, off you go....).

If it had been Elizabeth Alker I would have quite likely turned off by now..... (ANd BTW, for all his faults, Andrew Mc Gregor doesn't, in my book, have much to worry about as to being replaced by this presenter).

As to R3 being a presenters club - well for a long time now, turn up a program on the Schedules or iPlayer and its all about the presenter(s) isn't it? The show headlines the presenter and usually its a photo of the presenter. If you look at the title of a Record Review programme its all the presenters, not the work on BAL and the main review subjects. If R3 doesn't watch out, the presenters will be demanding pay rises because they have a "following". I presume this is a virus that's spread from Radios 1, 2, 6 (although I'm no expert on them) where my impression is that the show is all about the name of presenters, until that is, they move on...... And that I take to be a symptom of the fact that R3 is but a part of BBC Music and has limited room for manoeuvre and must obey certain BBC wide protocols.

I didn't hear the chit chat on hand over this morning, but I wouldn't think it would bother me if I had. I'm well used to blanking out 2 minute periods on R3 where they over promote the latest "BBC Music" big thing.

[Lancashire Lass]

Call me shallow, but I just can't stand TM's voice -- it is too in-your-face and too like Stuart McConie. Of course, as a northerner, I like regional accents! But his voice is so distinctive and he talks as if he's force-feeding you, I literally cannot concentrate on what he is saying. Thank God Andrew McGregor is back next week (though I can't understand why forum members don' seem to like him anyway).

[Beef Oven!]

Call me shallow, but I just can't stand TM's voice -- it is too in-your-face and too like Stuart McConie. Of course, as a northerner, I like regional accents! But his voice is so distinctive and he talks as if he's force-feeding you, I literally cannot concentrate on what he is saying. Thank God Andrew McGregor is back next week (though I can't understand why forum members don' seem to like him anyway).

Shallow

[teamsaint]

McKinney is fine by me. Voices are always a matter of personal taste, but he is clear, expresses opinions, and is an actual professional, so at least has a decent basis of knowledge.

Also, I would suggest that presenting to a really good / outstanding standard requires time to develop, and I think he has shown he is worthy of the opportunity

[kernelbogey]

...As to R3 being a presenters club - well for a long time now, turn up a program on the Schedules or iPlayer and its all about the presenter(s) isn't it? The show headlines the presenter and usually its a photo of the presenter. If you look at the title of a Record Review programme its all the presenters, not the work on BAL and the main review subjects. If R3 doesn't watch out, the presenters will be demanding pay rises because they have a "following". I presume this is a virus that's spread from Radios 1, 2, 6 (although I'm no expert on them) where my impression is that the show is all about the name of presenters, until that is, they move on...... And that I take to be a symptom of the fact that R3 is but a part of BBC Music and has limited room for manoeuvre and must obey certain BBC wide protocols...

It strikes me that the website must be written by apparatchiks who have nothing to do with the station. The emphasis on presenters, as opposed to content, seems to be part of a set of rules followed by these folk - rules that may make sense for the other stations.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

McKinney is fine by me. Voices are always a matter of personal taste, but he is clear, expresses opinions, and is an actual professional, so at least has a decent basis of knowledge.
Also, I would suggest that presenting to a really good / outstanding standard requires time to develop, and I think he has shown he is worthy of the opportunity

- totally agree; Tom McK (performer, Musicologist, and seasoned broadcaster) has the qualifications not merely to "read" CD liner notes, but to have written them in the first place. I agree he was a little "hasty" in his delivery this morning, which I put down to "first day nerves" - I hope he is given many further opportunities to hone his presenting skills to the more "comfortable" pace he demonstrates on Hear & Now. Even so, he was a refreshing and long overdue change from AMcG - whose presentation of the Leeds broadcasts was exemplary, and I hope he (AMcG) is given more such gigs.

[Pulcinella]

Even so, he was a refreshing and long overdue change from AMcG - whose presentation of the Leeds broadcasts was exemplary, and I hope he (AMcG) is given more such gigs.

I agree about Tom, but differ regarding AMcG: still too much of the 'I don't really know why I'm bothering asking you your opinion because I'm going to give you mine anyway' feel about all his 'interactions' for me, but we know that from Record Review!

[BBMmk2]

I agree about Tom, but differ regarding AMcG: still too much of the 'I don't really know why I'm bothering asking you your opinion because I'm going to give you mine anyway' feel about all his 'interactions' for me, but we know that from Record Review!

The similarity!

[Pianorak]

. . . AMcG - whose presentation of the Leeds broadcasts was exemplary, and I hope he (AMcG) is given more such gigs.

Couldn't agree more. The Lucy Parham effect?

[DracoM]

T.McKinney trying SO hard to be hey, look at me - one of the lads, streetwise, bit of a joker, me not Southerner-so-expect-droll-fun etc 'trope' [aaarrgghh!]

[Pulcinella]

T.McKinney trying SO hard to be hey, look at me - one of the lads, streetwise, bit of a joker, me not Southerner-so-expect-droll-fun etc 'trope' [aaarrgghh!]

I'm not sure that he had to try that hard.

I found him naturally refreshing (but then I'm not a southerner either!).

[antongould]

- totally agree; Tom McK (performer, Musicologist, and seasoned broadcaster) has the qualifications not merely to "read" CD liner notes, but to have written them in the first place. I agree he was a little "hasty" in his delivery this morning, which I put down to "first day nerves" - I hope he is given many further opportunities to hone his presenting skills to the more "comfortable" pace he demonstrates on Hear & Now. Even so, he was a refreshing and long overdue change from AMcG - whose presentation of the Leeds broadcasts was exemplary, and I hope he (AMcG) is given more such gigs.

Totally agree with your total agreement ....

[LMcD]

Well-spoken (in both senses of the word), quietly authoritative, and possessed of the true broadcaster's knack of convincing you that he's in the room having a friendly conversation with you alone ....that's Martin Handley. IMHO he's in the same league as, say, Tony Scotland and Cormac Rigby.

[BBMmk2]

Well-spoken (in both senses of the word), quietly authoritative, and possessed of the true broadcaster's knack of convincing you that he's in the room having a friendly conversation with you alone ....that's Martin Handley. IMHO he's in the same league as, say, Tony Scotland and Cormac Rigby.

That’s saying something!