Five Essential Elgar Recordings - your five?

[Pabmusic]

A pity the recording of Carice (?pronounced "Sarike"?) wasn't part of the broadcast.

I suspect the whole of this discussion is of absolutely no interest to MrJongJong.

Jerrold Northrop Moore and Michael Kennedy both pronounced it 'Kareece". What did they know? My beloved daughter is - and always has been - 'kariss'.

[gradus]

Jerrold Northrop Moore and Michael Kennedy both pronounced it 'Kareece". What did they know? My beloved daughter is - and always has been - 'kariss'.

Presumably Kariss and coined from his wife's names Caroline Alice.

[LeMartinPecheur]

Indeed - the only hard G "g e" combination I can think of is "get" - everything else (general, German, germane, germ, gentle, gesture, genuine, gem, gelatin) is soft.

I've been a "hard g in Gerontius" since I heard/read in my teens that that was how the composer pronounced it, but the "evidence" seems to be lacking.

Does anyone pronounce Eliot's Gerontion with a soft g?

[teamsaint]

Indeed - the only hard G "g e" combination I can think of is "get" - everything else (general, German, germane, germ, gentle, gesture, genuine, gem, gelatin) is soft.

I've been a "hard g in Gerontius" since I heard/read in my teens that that was how the composer pronounced it, but the "evidence" seems to be lacking.

Gethsemane is usually hard G , isn’t it ? Does that count ?


Gecko.

( I googled that one....)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Gethsemane is usually hard G , isn’t it ? Does that count ?


Gecko.

( I googled that one....)

and - there's also a series just started on the Getty family - do they own the 'burg address where Lincoln had an address?

[Pabmusic]

Presumably Kariss and coined from his wife's names Caroline Alice.

That's what I say, though the dedication of Salut d'Amour (which is where it all began) is in French and presumably would have had the long eee - à Carice.

[Pabmusic]

Elgar is often a problem where pronunciation is concerned. For most of his life his name was edWAHRD ELgrrr - pretty well the opposite of what we say now (EDwd ELGAHR). It was WW1 that did for the Germanic pronunciation of Edward (people had lived in the Edwahrdian age).

[cloughie]

and - there's also a series just started on the Getty family - do they own the 'burg address where Lincoln had an address?

I'd gettison the idea!

[Pabmusic]

Gertrude anyone?

No, me neither.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

[Nimrod]

1. Symphony no. 1 - Halle Orchestra, Barbirolli, Kings Lynn Live broadcast
2. Enigma Variations - Halle Orchestra, Barbirolli, 1956 Pye recording in the FTH
3. The Music Makers - BBCSO, Davis
4. Sospiri - NPO, Barbirolli. A beautiful work conducted and played beautifully.
The Dream of Gerontius - Halle, Barbirolli

[cloughie]

1. Symphony no. 1 - Halle Orchestra, Barbirolli, Kings Lynn Live broadcast
2. Enigma Variations - Halle Orchestra, Barbirolli, 1956 Pye recording in the FTH
3. The Music Makers - BBCSO, Davis
4. Sospiri - NPO, Barbirolli. A beautiful work conducted and played beautifully.
The Dream of Gerontius - Halle, Barbirolli

Welcome to the JB Fan Club. That Kings Lynn No1 is something special, do you have the recording with the Sea Pictures?

[Bryn]

[cloughie]

OK Smart A... Yes he did some great stuff with GCB and PJBE - a good brass arranger - I'm sure BBM will agree!

[Ein Heldenleben]

Valid point - though with the demise of brass band programming on R3 and R2 Elgar H performances are rarities when they used to be almost weekly! Can I put in a plug for Pictures at an Exhibition ? One of the best ever arrangements - Ravel, Henry Wood and Keith Emerson not excepted. Good that the great man is still with us .