Karajan

[cloughie]

My Granny loved to take Schoenberg's Pelleas with her tea.

With or without Melly's sand?

[BBMmk2]

I'm really enjoying the box set from DG of Richard Strauss's orchestral music at the moment.

[Lordgeous]

Not a Karajan fan but I've long admired his Sibelius 5, maybe partly because it was my introduction to this work. Nevertheless it paled behind the experience of hearing Barbirolli reherasing it in the RAM Duke's Hall when a student there (LSO?). Fellow students and I still remenisce about it to this day. The cascading brass in the finale was totally overwhelming. I still have that old Karajan (Philharmonia?) recording on LP in mono. Does anyone know if it was ever issued in stereo?

[HighlandDougie]

Not a Karajan fan but I've long admired his Sibelius 5, maybe partly because it was my introduction to this work. Nevertheless it paled behind the experience of hearing Barbirolli reherasing it in the RAM Duke's Hall when a student there (LSO?). Fellow students and I still remenisce about it to this day. The cascading brass in the finale was totally overwhelming. I still have that old Karajan (Philharmonia?) recording on LP in mono. Does anyone know if it was ever issued in stereo?

That depends on which recording you have on LP. He recorded the 5th twice for Columbia: the first recording (released as 33CX1047 in 1955) was mono only; the second recording (made in 1960) was released as 33CX1750 in mono and SAX2392 in stereo. They are both included in the Warner box: "Orchestral Spectaculars from Handel to Bartok 1949-1960".

[Lordgeous]

Many thanks, I'll dig it out and check.

[Stanfordian]

That depends on which recording you have on LP. He recorded the 5th twice for Columbia: the first recording (released as 33CX1047 in 1955) was mono only; the second recording (made in 1960) was released as 33CX1750 in mono and SAX2392 in stereo. They are both included in the Warner box: "Orchestral Spectaculars from Handel to Bartok 1949-1960".

Hiya Duggie,

Please see if you can find a Karajan recording of Sibelius No. 3.

[cloughie]

Hiya Duggie,

Please see if you can find a Karajan recording of Sibelius No. 3.

Hen's teeth anyone?

[Alain Maréchal]

Hiya Duggie,

Please see if you can find a Karajan recording of Sibelius No. 3.

According to Osborne Karajan never performed it. I wonder why. Ormandy never performed it either, claiming not to understand it.

[cloughie]

According to Osborne Karajan never performed it. I wonder why. Ormandy never performed it either, claiming not to understand it.

We just have to be thankful that Anthony Collins was bright enough to suss it out then!

[Conchis]

According to Osborne Karajan never performed it. I wonder why. Ormandy never performed it either, claiming not to understand it.

I read somewhere - possibly in Osborne - that Karajan was studying the score shortly before he died. I wonder if we'd have heard it from him had he lived a few more years?

[Stanfordian]

According to Osborne Karajan never performed it. I wonder why. Ormandy never performed it either, claiming not to understand it.

Hello Alain, Duggie and Cloughie,

It wasn't just Karajan who didn't perform the Sibelius Third. I discovered that it was over a hundred years before the Berliner Philharmoniker first performed the Third which was in 2010 under Simon Rattle.

[visualnickmos]

Sibelius 3 - I rather like Ashkenazy's recording (Decca) I think he "understood" it!

[Stanfordian]

Sibelius 3 - I rather like Ashkenazy's recording (Decca) I think he "understood" it!

I agree! In fact I enjoy all Ashkenazy's Sibelius Decca recordings.

[Parry1912]

I agree! In fact I enjoy all Ashkenazy's Sibelius Decca recordings.

[visualnickmos]

I agree! In fact I enjoy all Ashkenazy's Sibelius Decca recordings.

Indeed!