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  • Barbirollians
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11669

    #61
    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    I received a reply from LPO to say the Jurowski Sym 2/3 will be released later this year but no plans for the Serenade for Strings and Francesca which are available on download!
    The Serenade for Strungs and Francesca that need reissuing are the Barbirolli coupling from 1971. A Francesca to challenge Stokowski.

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    • Keraulophone
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1945

      #62
      For the opposite approach to Klemperer in Brahms 1, try this live telecast from Carnegie Hall on 3rd November 1951.
      The symphony begins 11 minutes in, though Weber’s Euryanthe is well worth a listen.



      If you can stomach it, Levine’s attempt to emulate Toscanini, aided and abetted by the Chicago Symphony, was released by RCA in 1976.

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      • Barbirollians
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11669

        #63
        Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
        For the opposite approach to Klemperer in Brahms 1, try this live telecast from Carnegie Hall on 3rd November 1951.
        The symphony begins 11 minutes in, though Weber’s Euryanthe is well worth a listen.



        If you can stomach it, Levine’s attempt to emulate Toscanini, aided and abetted by the Chicago Symphony, was released by RCA in 1976.
        Left off the list as like Toscanini his recordings cannot be counted as modern - Furtwangler's 1952 Berlin Brahms 1.

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        • HighlandDougie
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3081

          #64
          I've just been listening to Eduard van Beinum's 1958 Philips stereo Brahms 1 remake. Wonderful stuff - Concertgebouw in great form. EvB propels the music forward to thrilling effect - Riccardo Chailly could learn a lesson or two from him in how to achieve this result without sounding hurried. It also sounds very good indeed for a recording that it is about to have its 60th birthday. Or maybe that's the result of the Japanese pressing plus using what I think of as Jayne LW's "snake-oil" Marigo Clear Transformation Mat. I've no idea of how it works - but my ears do not deceive me.

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #65
            Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
            I've just been listening to Eduard van Beinum's 1958 Philips stereo Brahms 1 remake. Wonderful stuff - Concertgebouw in great form. EvB propels the music forward to thrilling effect - Riccardo Chailly could learn a lesson or two from him in how to achieve this result without sounding hurried. It also sounds very good indeed for a recording that it is about to have its 60th birthday. Or maybe that's the result of the Japanese pressing plus using what I think of as Jayne LW's "snake-oil" Marigo Clear Transformation Mat. I've no idea of how it works - but my ears do not deceive me.
            C'mon HD, it tells you on the packet!!

            "static dissipation and shielding technologies work synergistically together to create a significantly higher level of digital performance".

            I think the trick is to get the technologies to work 'synergistically together' rather than the other way

            As you can see, I'm quite sceptical about these things, but what I can tell from your and Jayne's contributions on this forum, I can only believe they work. I am surprised. I've wound down the disc side of my music and I shan't even br getting a cheap SACD player, so I shan't have to shell out on this item. Please don't tell me there's a similar device for downloads!

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              #66
              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
              C'mon HD, it tells you on the packet!!

              "static dissipation and shielding technologies work synergistically together to create a significantly higher level of digital performance".

              I think the trick is to get the technologies to work 'synergistically together' rather than the other way

              As you can see, I'm quite sceptical about these things, but what I can tell from your and Jayne's contributions on this forum, I can only believe they work. I am surprised. I've wound down the disc side of my music and I shan't even br getting a cheap SACD player, so I shan't have to shell out on this item. Please don't tell me there's a similar device for downloads!
              If you use USB for playback, there's a whole cottage industry for things like this -
              The REGEN's primary function is to generate a completely new USB data signal from a carefully chosen USB hub chip running from an ultra low-noise regulator and low-jitter clock—which it does with ideal impedance matching and right at the input of your DAC. Its secondary function is that it interrupts the 5VBUS of the USB cable coming into it, and provides clean 5VBUS on its output—for DACs that need it—via a second ultra low-noise regulator.

              which I use with -
              The world's only bank-alternating, microprocessor-controlled, super-capacitor-based ultra-low output-noise, ultra-low output impedance DC power supply for high-end audio components.

              ...and very well they work....

              Marques like iFi and Schiit Audio do similar ranges too... But biggest USB bang for your buck is - the Audioquest Jitterbug...
              AudioQuest cables and other audio products combine solid conductors, high-purity metals, specialized geometries, and stable dielectrics to enable naturally beautiful sounds and images.

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              • Beef Oven!
                Ex-member
                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #67
                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                If you use USB for playback, there's a whole cottage industry for things like this -
                The REGEN's primary function is to generate a completely new USB data signal from a carefully chosen USB hub chip running from an ultra low-noise regulator and low-jitter clock—which it does with ideal impedance matching and right at the input of your DAC. Its secondary function is that it interrupts the 5VBUS of the USB cable coming into it, and provides clean 5VBUS on its output—for DACs that need it—via a second ultra low-noise regulator.

                which I use with -
                The world's only bank-alternating, microprocessor-controlled, super-capacitor-based ultra-low output-noise, ultra-low output impedance DC power supply for high-end audio components.

                ...and very well they work....

                Marques like iFi and Schiit Audio do similar ranges too... But biggest USB bang for your buck is - the Audioquest Jitterbug...
                http://www.audioquest.com/jitterbug/jitterbug
                Jayne, you're not helping - I'm saving up for a new sofa

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22115

                  #68
                  Back on topic I've just noticed a used copy of the Testament Brahms Symphony live set recorded with the Philharmonia in 1952 is available from an Amazon merchant at around £12 inc p&p. A bargain at that price! I paid almost double that and I thought that good value.

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                  • Conchis
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2396

                    #69
                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Back on topic I've just noticed a used copy of the Testament Brahms Symphony live set recorded with the Philharmonia in 1952 is available from an Amazon merchant at around £12 inc p&p. A bargain at that price! I paid almost double that and I thought that good value.
                    I famously picked this up for £1.99 in Ilkley a couple of years back (reported in the Charity Shop Trawl thread)! :) Definitely worth having.

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22115

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                      I famously picked this up for £1.99 in Ilkley a couple of years back (reported in the Charity Shop Trawl thread)! :) Definitely worth having.
                      I notice it has gone now so someone has made a good purchase.

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                      • Andy2112
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 18

                        #71
                        Sincere thanks for the many thoughtful and helpful responses. In the end I decided to go for go for a double dose of Jurowski and the LPO for both works with the intention of perhaps adding a Karajan or Klemperer Brahms 1 at a later stage. Very pleased with the Jurowski Brahms, even though he does seem to kick off at quite a lick for the opening bars with the pounding timpani. The Tchaikovsky is still working it's way from the Amazon.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Andy2112 View Post
                          Sincere thanks for the many thoughtful and helpful responses. In the end I decided to go for go for a double dose of Jurowski and the LPO for both works with the intention of perhaps adding a Karajan or Klemperer Brahms 1 at a later stage. Very pleased with the Jurowski Brahms, even though he does seem to kick off at quite a lick for the opening bars with the pounding timpani. The Tchaikovsky is still working it's way from the Amazon.
                          The Klemperer in Brahms 1, may sound rather ponderous, especially in the first movement. Any version by Haitink is always good to invest.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • visualnickmos
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3609

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            The Klemperer in Brahms 1, may sound rather ponderous, especially in the first movement. Any version by Haitink is always good to invest.
                            Definitely.

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