Horenstein in Mahler

[PJPJ]

Horenstein's Mahler 5 from Edinburgh is, I think, a quite stunning performance and from the source material available sounds as good as it's going to.

Only the 2nd is missing from Horenstein's discography - a live recording hasn't surfaced and I know JH's cousin, Misha, has been searching for one for a long time. If anyone has an off-air please let him or me know.

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[cloughie]

The CFP Mahler 4 was released on CD so there might be second hand copies knocking around .

There are but the cheapest 2nd hand are around £8 but it is in the EMI complete works box which no doubt will give you duplicates but is available new for around £27 for the 16 CD set.

[vinteuil]

There are but the cheapest 2nd hand are around £8 but it is in the EMI complete works box which no doubt will give you duplicates but is available new for around £27 for the 16 CD set.

... this one, I presume?

http://amzn.eu/brxFoMn

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[cloughie]

... this one, I presume?

http://amzn.eu/brxFoMn

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Yes that's the boy, and though I had most of the symphonies in those versions already it filled many gaps with the other works.

[mathias broucek]

Slightly OT but can I put in a word for his outstanding LSO Bruckner 8 that was on BBC Legends....

[seabright]

I just tapped "Jascha Horenstein" in the You Tube 'search' field and among many other uploads, here are some of the Mahler entries. Several have been put there by Misha Horenstein, clearly realising what a great classical archive You Tube has become:

Symphony 1 ... LSO ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1_vG-tRKAk

Symphony 4 ... LPO ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_audevEXDLY

Symphony 5 ... Berlin PO ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akWajTc1GF8

Symphony 6 ... Stockholm Philharmonic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRDZswVLeZA

Symphony 8 ... LSO ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJgF23VtAc

Symphony 9 ... Unidentified but the comments under the video ascribe it either to a 1959 LSO Albert Hall performance or a 1966 Proms performance. One comment says there are 6 performances to choose from in all! ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aXiQwKap0w

Lots more Horenstein on You Tube, including more Mahler, plus rehearsals and interviews, so take your pick! ...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jascha+Horenstein

[Bryn]

Yes - the Legends remastering made the sound worse than the version I have (currently only available at silly prices):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mahler-Symphony-No-Jascha-Horenstein/dp/B000F62CJQ

... the sound "difficult" here, but still "listenable"; and the performance is one of the very best that the symphony has ever received (my favourite recording before the BPO/Gielen Live was released on TESTAMENT).

My 29 August 1969 RFH 7th is on the intaglio label. It's over a decade since I last listened to it. Not the best of sound quality IIRC. I will try and find time to give it a spin tomorrow.

[vibratoforever]

Thursday 16 July 1970 and I was there too. Brandenburg 1, Schoenberg CS No 1, then Lieder Eines Fahrenden Gesellen and LVB 8.

The sound when JB made her first entry just took my breath away away!

I didn't see Horenstein in much more Mahler, but plenty of Bruckner, including the 8th at the Proms in 1970. Barbirolli died later in that month and Horenstein took over one of his planned concerts in Sheffield, including a superb Schubert 9

Far too long ago now to say with certainty, but I think that the only time I saw both Horenstein and Janet Baker live was in a concert in 1970 (probably) as part of the Nottingham Festival, and I suspect that it was Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen that we heard. The first item in the concert was Boyce Symphony 1, and I have no idea what was after the interval!
I was living away from home doing an apprenticeship (pre-University sandwich course year) and went with my landlady, who drove us from Derby!
Mahler/Janet Baker/Horenstein was certainly a winning combination for us that night.
If anyone else was there and kept the programme or remembers it, I'd love to know if my memory is intact, and what else we heard.

[Pulcinella]

Thursday 16 July 1970 and I was there too. Brandenburg 1, Schoenberg CS No 1, then Lieder Eines Fahrenden Gesellen and LVB 8.

The sound when JB made her first entry just took my breath away away!

I didn't see Horenstein in much more Mahler, but plenty of Bruckner, including the 8th at the Proms in 1970. Barbirolli died later in that month and Horenstein took over one of his planned concerts in Sheffield, including a superb Schubert 9

Thanks! I would have sworn that the first item was Boyce not JSB. I know that my landlady and I heard the Boyce together somewhere, so there's another mystery to resolve!

[gurnemanz]

Symphony 8 ... LSO ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJgF23VtAc

Thanks for those links. This alternative link to the Albert Hall Eighth includes Deryck Cooke's radio introduction.

[Cockney Sparrow]

Thanks for those links. This alternative link to the Albert Hall Eighth includes Deryck Cooke's radio introduction.

Oh my - thanks for the link including the introduction! (I was an infant at the time). I've got the CD of the performance - I'll make every effort to go to a performance of Mahler 8 (and yes, I'm an opera lover so it seems similar territory - not an original thought I know).

Listening now, I hear mention of Charles Spinks. In my early concert going days, we must have heard him in S Saens Third Symphony, perhaps the Planets, and other pieces - in any case finding him at the console always gave rise to some levity amongst my friends - he didn't hold back! (Although, looking back, I suppose he had to be executing the conductor's wishes.......)

[gurnemanz]

Oh my - thanks for the link including the introduction! (I was an infant at the time). I've got the CD of the performance - I'll make every effort to go to a performance of Mahler 8 (and yes, I'm an opera lover so it seems similar territory - not an original thought I know).

I was interested to note on that programme that boys from Emanuel School were involved. I started at that school two years later and can remember being rejected for the choir by Donald Cashmore during a class music lesson. (Next please ...). Despite that discouraging setback to my singing career I did later join an amateur choir and am still keenly involved.

[Barbirollians]

The BBC Legends 2CD set also includes an interesting interview of Horenstein by Alan Blyth .

[umslopogaas]

In addition to those symphonies listed in the opening post, he did record no. 3. Its on a 2 LP set on the Unicorn label, RHS 302/3, dated 1970. It features the LSO, Ambrosian Singers, Wandsworth School Boys Choir and Norma Proctor (contralto). Presumably not available on CD - possibly never issued? That would be a shame, since the LP cover notes it won the Grand Prix du Disque (no details of what that is).

[vinteuil]

In addition to those symphonies listed in the opening post, he did record no. 3. Its on a 2 LP set on the Unicorn label, RHS 302/3, dated 1970. It features the LSO, Ambrosian Singers, Wandsworth School Boys Choir and Norma Proctor (contralto). Presumably not available on CD - possibly never issued? That would be a shame, since the LP cover notes it won the Grand Prix du Disque (no details of what that is).

... I wonder if it's the Mahler 3 on this set :

http://amzn.eu/0ot6Lns

- and also in the Brilliant mixed bag -

http://amzn.eu/f5cdIJr

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