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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11702

    #61
    Originally posted by gradus View Post
    Lynn Harrell was/is? a fine cellist but haven't heard anything of him in recent years.

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    • pastoralguy
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7761

      #62
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      Indeed. I think that the Hebrew original begins with a sound closer to the "ch" sound in "loch" - but maybe Laredo pronounces it differently from his South American forebears?
      And I got a telling off for going 'off topic' for mentioning Laredo in the ''cellists' site...

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #63
        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
        And I got a telling off for going 'off topic' for mentioning Laredo in the ''cellists' site...
        Ach!
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Dave2002
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          • Dec 2010
          • 18022

          #64
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Indeed. I think that the Hebrew original begins with a sound closer to the "ch" sound in "loch" - but maybe Laredo pronounces it differently from his South American forebears?
          So?

          Just because I'm English doesn't mean I'm obliged to speak the language as it was 1500 years ago - Old English, or even the late Middle English, or perhaps Shakespearean English. Added to which I have no idea who my forbears were, or where they came from. Are you omniscient, and know where Jaime originated and therefore feel obliged to prescribe the form of speech he should use, or how he should be addressed? We believe he comes from Bolivia, which is in South America and some distance from Israel.

          So what's Hebrew got to do with it?

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #65
            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
            So?
            Just because I'm English doesn't mean I'm obliged to speak the language as it was 1500 years ago - Old English, or even the late Middle English, or perhaps Shakespearean English. Added to which I have no idea who my forbears were, or where they came from. Are you omniscient, and know where Jaime originated and therefore feel obliged to prescribe the form of speech he should use, or how he should be addressed? We believe he comes from Bolivia, which is in South America and some distance from Israel.
            So what's Hebrew got to do with it?
            Erm ... when you're quite ready ... have a look at #56? The Hebrew origins of the name? Away from the topic of Virtuosi and their fashionability - but blame whoever it was who raised the question of what Mr Laredo's forename was in the first place!

            Etymology, sunbeam - of interest to some of us on the Forum; annoying to you, perhaps - but since when do you proscribe what I - or any other Forumistas - am permitted to Post on the Forum?
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • visualnickmos
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3610

              #66
              What on earth is going on here?

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              • pastoralguy
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7761

                #67
                Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                What on earth is going on here?
                Beats me.

                Anyway, I'm currently listening to the classic du Pre recording of the Elgar 'concerto with Sir John Barbirolli. Is du Pre in or out of fashion?

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                • Dave2002
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18022

                  #68
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  Erm ... when you're quite ready ... have a look at #56? The Hebrew origins of the name? Away from the topic of Virtuosi and their fashionability - but blame whoever it was who raised the question of what Mr Laredo's forename was in the first place!
                  All I did to start was to point out that Jaime's name was that - not Jamie. You went off on the Hebrew tangent.

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                  • Dave2002
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 18022

                    #69
                    Follow up to that - http://collegian.csufresno.edu/2017/...music-faculty/

                    I didn't know Fresno State had a concert hall, but perhaps it's just the small room they use sometimes. Seeing the reference to the Fresno Bee I thought the performances would be downtown, but they clearly weren't. I guess it was a good experience, and good to see Lynn H still active. I last saw him in Manchester at the last 'cello festival.

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                    • visualnickmos
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3610

                      #70
                      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                      Beats me.

                      Anyway, I'm currently listening to the classic du Pre recording of the Elgar 'concerto with Sir John Barbirolli. Is du Pre in or out of fashion?
                      Certainly not!

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20570

                        #71
                        Fashion is a form of bullying.

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11702

                          #72
                          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                          Beats me.

                          Anyway, I'm currently listening to the classic du Pre recording of the Elgar 'concerto with Sir John Barbirolli. Is du Pre in or out of fashion?
                          Not with me ! I have loads of Elgar Cello Concerto recordings and like most of them a great deal but she remains head and shoulders above them all . I think her live Proms Dvorak on BBC Legends with Charles Groves is pretty special . No doubt hindsight but what a shame she did not record it with Barbirolli ( a truly great Dvorak conductor) when they recorded that odd Schoenberg adaptation of a concerto by Monn instead to be coupled with the Haydn Cello Concerto in D .

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