What download have you bought?

[Bryn]

Well apart from being miffed that they haven't replied to me, this is some news indeed.... Bryn - if you could pm me the sender's name I could try them again... if you don't want to, well OK. I'll just send my earlier one again (for the third time...)....

If you recall, I compared the Praga one with the Qobuz BNF mono ones and there was no sign of print-through on those whilst tape noise was if anything slightly more obvious (see quote above...)....

Yes. My mention of print-through was intended to offer potntial support for the possibility of an original 2 track master having come Praga's way somehow. I will PM you the name. It's just a forename, no family name was given.

[cloughie]

Well apart from being miffed that they haven't replied to me, this is some news indeed.... Bryn - if you could pm me the sender's name I could try them again... if you don't want to, well OK. I'll just send my earlier one again (for the third time...)....

If you recall, I compared the Praga one with the Qobuz BNF mono ones and there was no sign of print-through on those whilst tape noise was if anything slightly more obvious (see quote above...)....

Looks like someone else is getting in on the act now....
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-St...ds=bartok+vegh

So who is releasing them in September? Also in Bryn's communication SAX 1xxx numbers are quoted for mono lps - there is a basic flaw in that Columbia mono LPs were numbered 33CX and that stereo SAX started at 2251. I think I go along with Bryn's suggestion that they were fake stereo in the style of Eclipse LPs!

[Bryn]

So who is releasing them in September? Also in Bryn's communication SAX 1xxx numbers are quoted for mono lps - there is a basic flaw in that Columbia mono LPs were numbered 33CX and that stereo SAX started at 2251. I think I go along with Bryn's suggestion that they were fake stereo in the style of Eclipse LPs!

Looks like it's Membran, following on from M & A, Scribendum, Praga Digitals et al. My point about the periodicity of pre-echo is that if it's tape print-through, the periodicity will vary according to where on the reel it is found. With vinyl LP pre-echo, it's a constant 1.8 seconds before the sound itself.

[jayne lee wilson]

So who is releasing them in September? Also in Bryn's communication SAX 1xxx numbers are quoted for mono lps - there is a basic flaw in that Columbia mono LPs were numbered 33CX and that stereo SAX started at 2251. I think I go along with Bryn's suggestion that they were fake stereo in the style of Eclipse LPs!

Well, 1) Have you heard the Praga Digitals release? So what do you think?
2) You honestly think someone from Praga will cover a supposed "lie" on the CD inlay/booklet with more "lies" in response to an enquiry? Or perhaps you think it's something like "more cock-up than conspiracy"?

[jayne lee wilson]

Maybe they would....
Here's Rob Cowan in Gramophone, 9/2017, on "Tribute to Gregor Piatigorsky" (Praga Digitals)....

"...Praga's "Tribute to Gregor Piatigorsky", but here I must raise an objection or three. "Genuine Stereo Lab: remastered from studio stereo recordings" we're told. Well for openers, neither of the recordings said to be with the RCA Victor SO with Fritz Reiner - Brahms' Double Concerto (with Nathan Milstein) and Saint-Saens' First Concerto - were ever, as far as I know, recorded in stereo. Besides which, the Brahms isn't with the RCA Orchestra but with the Robin Hood Dell Orchestra of Philadelphia (Robin Hood Dell being the orchestra's summer venue). And then to complicate matters further, the one recording that is, rightfully, in stereo (as issued by RCA) Bloch's Schelomo with the Boston SO conducted by Charles Munch, has been transferred in mono.
If none of that bothers you, Schelomo is tight as a drum, not quite in the Feuerman/Stokowski class but almost as dramatic and wonderfully played by Piatigorsky. The concertos are equally good, the Brahms especially."

It doesn't prove anything, of course........
But if GSL has a series editor, perhaps they don't understand La Règle du Jeu...

[Beef Oven!]

Charles Ives - Morlot - 24/96 - Qobuz

I've not been as convinced as other forum members about the Morlot issues, but this release is a game-changer for me. Both I terms of appreciating Morlot, and also in appreciating the music of Charles Ives.

It's a very different approach to that of many of the others. The only way I can describe it is to say that Morlot avoids even the merest hint of "Yankey Doodle Dandy". The music seems to be presented shorn of any sentimentality and American Cliche that sometimes occasions performances of Ive's music. It's very abstract. I'm finding it very easy to connect with the music.

I've never heard Ive's music presented like this. So pure and straight-forward.

I bought this download earlier this evening and have played it through once. I'm definitely going to be listening to it a lot in the coming weeks.

[Beef Oven!]

Replacing buggered or lost essential CDs with downloads. Can't have any more hard copy ...........

[kea]

.....am I the only person who always reads "Praga Digitals" as "Praga Digitalis"?

[cloughie]

.....am I the only person who always reads "Praga Digitals" as "Praga Digitalis"?

Sounds like a toxic Bohemian Foxglove Cocktail or maybe a homeopathic remedy!

[BBMmk2]

British Violin Concertos
Samuel Coleridge-Taylor
Violin Concerto in G minor, Op.80
Frederick Delius
Suite for Violin & Orchestra
Haydn Wood
Violin Concerto in A minor.
Tasmin Little(violin), BBC PO,
Sir Andrew Davis.

Frederick Delius

Sonata in B, Op.posth; Sonata No.1(1914-1916)
Sonata No.2(1923); Sonata No.3(1930)
Tasmin Little(violin), Piers Lane(piano).

[Bryn]

Currently on promotion from eClassical.

[Beef Oven!]

Currently on promotion from eClassical.

Thanks for the heads-up on this Bryn - don't know how I missed this, I get regular updates from e-Music.

Downloading the Hi-Res recording as I type!

[Beef Oven!]

[Beef Oven!]

John Ireland chamber music. Excellent value at £7.99 for three hours of music (16 bit CD quality from Qobuz).

Some excellent musicians, too. Including Ireland specialist/pupil Eric Parkin on piano.

Have to say, this 1970s recording is rather good in terms of sound quality.

[HighlandDougie]

Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No 2 in G minor, Op.16/Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto No 2 in C minor, Op.18

Denis Matsuev (Piano)/Orchestra of the Mariinsksy Theatre/Valery Gergiev (Qobuz 24/192 download)

Bought to test out the ex-dem Marantz amplifier and related SACD/DAC player I've just bought via e-bay Germany, largely because I've found earlier recordings from this combination on physical SACD to be rather intractable. Piano closely miked, orchestral sound a bit of a mush etc etc. Matsuev is very much of the basher school in the Prokofiev, which is, I suppose, a work which can take his type of muscular pianism. Equipment passes with flying colours, not so sure that my ears won't take the rest of the day to recover from the aural onslaught.