Mozart Edition - complete this time.

[Bryn]

Just noticed that there seems to be no mention of what specific solo instruments are used in the concertos. This seems a bit remiss of Decca/DG. I was rather hoping they would tell us, for instance, which model of fortepiano was used by Robert Levin for K451, K453 and K456 which I am currently giving a spin.

[vinteuil]

Just noticed that there seems to be no mention of what specific solo instruments are used in the concertos. This seems a bit remiss of Decca/DG. I was rather hoping they would tell us, for instance, which model of fortepiano was used by Robert Levin for K451, K453 and K456 which I am currently giving a spin.

... I have the old individual discs -

K451 fortepiano Monika May, Marburg an der Lahn 1982 after Anton Walter, Vienna c 1795

K453 Derek Adlam 1987 after Anton Walther, Vienna c 1795

K456 Paul McNulty, Amsterdam 1991 after Anton Walther 1795

[HighlandDougie]

Having been in deepest Cornwall last weekend and thereby missing Amazon UK's reduction in price (and kicking myself for doing so), I was lured yesterday by an Amazon Italy "Warehouse Deal" copy at a whisker over £200, despite the thought that the accompanying literature might all be in Italian. Having just received an email to say that was "Spedito", I see that it's coming from that well-known gem on the Costa Fortha, aka Dunfermline. I'm now thinking that maybe I'll get Umslopogaas's duff copy ......

[MickyD]

... I have the old individual discs -

K451 fortepiano Monika May, Marburg an der Lahn 1982 after Anton Walter, Vienna c 1795

K453 Derek Adlam 1987 after Anton Walther, Vienna c 1795



K456 Paul McNulty, Amsterdam 1991 after Anton Walther 1795

Have they also included the L'Oiseau Lyre disc that Andras Schiff recorded on Mozart's own fortepiano? I have that disc in my collection.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Have they also included the L'Oiseau Lyre disc that Andras Schiff recorded on Mozart's own fortepiano? I have that disc in my collection.

CD40 in the box contains the Fantasia in c minor, K475; the Rondo in a minor, K511; the Sonata Facile in C, K545 - all played by Schiff alone on Mozza's fortepiano (made by Anton Walter in 1782-ish) - the Duo Sonata in F, K497 - the same instrument, with Schiff joined by George Malcolm - and the "Violin Sonata" in Bb, K454, in which Schiff (at the same instrument, with Yuuko Shiokawa playing the composer's violin).

Recorded in the Mozart Museum in Salzburg in January, 1991, January 1992, and February, 1993.


If that's the same content as your l'Oiseau Lyre disc, then "Yes".

[Bryn]

CD40 in the box contains the Fantasia in c minor, K475; the Rondo in a minor, K511; the Sonata Facile in C, K545 - all played by Schiff alone on Mozza's fortepiano (made by Anton Walter in 1782-ish) - the Duo Sonata in F, K497 - the same instrument, with Schiff joined by George Malcolm - and the "Violin Sonata" in Bb, K454, in which Schiff (at the same instrument, with Yuuko Shiokawa playing the composer's violin).

Recorded in the Mozart Museum in Salzburg in January, 1991, January 1992, and February, 1993.


If that's the same content as your l'Oiseau Lyre disc, then "Yes".

I think this might be the disc, or at least the content, referred to. It is also disc 12 in the L'Oiseau-lyre "Classical and Early Romantic" boxed set.

[Ferretfancy]

CD40 in the box contains the Fantasia in c minor, K475; the Rondo in a minor, K511; the Sonata Facile in C, K545 - all played by Schiff alone on Mozza's fortepiano (made by Anton Walter in 1782-ish) - the Duo Sonata in F, K497 - the same instrument, with Schiff joined by George Malcolm - and the "Violin Sonata" in Bb, K454, in which Schiff (at the same instrument, with Yuuko Shiokawa playing the composer's violin).

Recorded in the Mozart Museum in Salzburg in January, 1991, January 1992, and February, 1993.


If that's the same content as your l'Oiseau Lyre disc, then "Yes".

I bought a 4 disc set of these performances at Mozart's birthplace on 11th August 1999. I remember it well because we watched the total eclipse of the sun on that lovely day in Salzburg. ( 2m 14s.of totality, a wonderful sight )

I think that all the recordings were made for this box set, published by and sold under the Mozarteum label, but no doubt they were also issued by L'Oiseau Lyre

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I bought a 4 disc set of these performances at Mozart's birthplace on 11th August 1999. I remember it well because we watched the total eclipse of the sun on that lovely day in Salzburg. ( 2m 14s.of totality, a wonderful sight )

I think that all the recordings were made for this box set, published by and sold under the Mozarteum label, but no doubt they were also issued by L'Oiseau Lyre

I remember that day very well, too - not quite up to the standards of Salzburg; I was at a (successful) job interview in the centre of Bradford. (The eerie half-light - completely different from twilight or heavy cloud - made a real impression on me which made the disappointment that it wasn't going to be Total vanish.)

[HighlandDougie]

Having been in deepest Cornwall last weekend and thereby missing Amazon UK's reduction in price (and kicking myself for doing so), I was lured yesterday by an Amazon Italy "Warehouse Deal" copy at a whisker over £200, despite the thought that the accompanying literature might all be in Italian. Having just received an email to say that was "Spedito", I see that it's coming from that well-known gem on the Costa Fortha, aka Dunfermline. I'm now thinking that maybe I'll get Umslopogaas's duff copy ......

Ah, well, now I know why it was a "Warehouse Deal", as the box looks as if it's had a round with Frank Bruno - and the box didn't win (split up a couple of the sides but eminently repairable). But the insides are all pristine (number 10,212 of the 15,000), the books in English and all the CDs present and correct. It saved me about £100 so I'm not complaining. And, oh fortuna, TOH is in the UK so no problem about getting it into my study unnoticed.

[Parry1912]

And, oh fortuna, TOH is in the UK so no problem about getting it into my study unnoticed.

Shame on you!

My copy is currently sitting on the dining table pending a decision on where to put it . The cat is playing with the box it came in.

[umslopogaas]

Highland Dougie, my box also had a split corner - not as bad as yours, by the sound of it - but as you say, easily repaired. I imagine that because I got two sets of two of the four boxes and none of the other two, someone else had the same experience and in all probability also returned the set to Amazon. Who then presumably repacked the sets correctly and re-sold them. To my knowledge, there was nothing wrong with the discs themselves, so even if you did get some of my returned set, there shouldnt have been a problem.

I am working my way through the discs. A couple so far have had minor blemishes - clicks and pops- which might have caused me to demand a replacement had I paid full price, but at this bargain basement price I certainly wont complain: the blemishes are only momentary unwanted noises.

[MickyD]

I think this might be the disc, or at least the content, referred to. It is also disc 12 in the L'Oiseau-lyre "Classical and Early Romantic" boxed set.

That's the one! Thanks Bryn and Ferney.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

That's the one! Thanks Bryn and Ferney.

I mentioned on the "What are you listening to that for?" Thread that I wondered if these recordings were the first time that (some of) these works had ever been heard on this instrument in that venue; Mozart having left Salzburg never to return when he wrote them?

[Ferretfancy]

I mentioned on the "What are you listening to that for?" Thread that I wondered if these recordings were the first time that (some of) these works had ever been heard on this instrument in that venue; Mozart having left Salzburg never to return when he wrote them?

Remember Rosemary Brown? She was the wonderful phoney medium who took dictation of new works by Beethoven, Liszt etc. Judging by the results I can only conjecture that there are too many distractions on the other side. Still, we could have asked her to unravel a few Mozart mysteries by approaching him with a brief questionnaire!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Remember Rosemary Brown? She was the wonderful phoney medium who took dictation of new works by Beethoven, Liszt etc. Judging by the results I can only conjecture that there are too many distractions on the other side. Still, we could have asked her to unravel a few Mozart mysteries by approaching him with a brief questionnaire!

I remember William Mathias telling us he had met her, and although not entirely convinced, he was not then prepared to dismiss her as a phoney.