Web site details?

[Dave2002]

I'm listening to today's Record Review, which features the music of Schwertsik amongst other things.

I have looked in vain at the BBC's web sites to find out what else this programme might contain. This is really poor.

Maybe it's a new idea - to take us on a mystery tour, but at 10:23 I have fairly little idea what might have happened during the next hour or so, though I have an inkling that Walton's cello concerto will feature somehow before 12 noon.

Perhaps the Radio Times has more details - which somewhat to my surprise it does.

At 11am: Andrew talks to pianist Steven Osborne about his recent recordings including his latest disc of Beethoven Piano Sonatas

11.45 Steven Isserlis, with the Philharmonia Orchestra conducted by Paavo Järvi in Walton's cello concerto.

No mention of other things though, such as the section on Rebecca Clarke, though this gets flagged up after the event on the web site - or at least there is evidence of it with the playlist appearing afterwards!

[french frank]

The Show more option gives some details.

[Dave2002]

The Show more option gives some details.

Oh dear - fell down that hole again. But I'm sure I can't be the only one.

There was still no mention of the Rebecca Clarke feature.

[Andrew Slater]

There is usually a pasted-in section at the bottom of the RR page, which appears late on a Friday at roughly the same time as the newsletter is sent out. I usually paste it in to my online listings. Yesterday, neither the pasted-in section nor the newsletter appeared. Staff holidays?

[Dave2002]

Is the delayed/after the event track listing deliberate? Currently there is a movement of a Beethoven piano sonata - lovely - but no details.
I expect they'll appear in a few minutes.

I know that in the USA this became an issue, as record companies complained that if people knew the track listings for radio programmes in advance they could get their recorders ready to make "bootleg" recordings, and I think the idea even became enshrined in law. I'm not sure that the same has happened here, and in any case there are so many ways round this nowadays - at least for those in the know - that I think it could be pointless.

[french frank]

Is the delayed/after the event track listing deliberate?

I assumed that rather than 'deliberate' it was the result of automation which all BBC radio websites use, and was designed as a labour-saving device? Rotten idea for Radio 3, though.

[Dave2002]

I assumed that rather than 'deliberate' it was the result of automation which all BBC radio websites use, and was designed as a labour-saving device? Rotten idea for Radio 3, though.

No mention so far of Steven Osborne's Beethoven in the playlist listings, though the details of the Walton Cello Concerto have arrived.

Perhaps this is because the CD hasn't been released yet, though one might think that the record company (Hyperion) would want people to know about that - though not copy it. This doesn't quite fit in with the idea of an automated system - but maybe it's not fully automated, or there are different subsets of it.

[Andrew Slater]

The pasted-in details are there now. I'll paste them into my listing later.

[french frank]

There is usually a pasted-in section at the bottom of the RR page, which appears late on a Friday at roughly the same time as the newsletter is sent out. I usually paste it in to my online listings. Yesterday, neither the pasted-in section nor the newsletter appeared. Staff holidays?

Now if only we could have the advance pasted-in format for the various programmes (with approximate timings, if they want), to be followed by the automated version with hyperlinks. Surely someone has an Ur-copy from which the automated listings are generated?

[Dave2002]

Surely someone has an Ur-copy from which the automated listings are generated?

Maybe, but perhaps it's a closely guarded secret, following msg 5.