Brahms Symphony Cycles

[mathias broucek]

Your head is telling you something your heart doesn’t want to listen to.

Must remember that phrase....

[P. G. Tipps]

Interesting comments.

Brahms' music reminds me of the garrulous guest at a house party who always has plenty to say without actually saying very much. I just KNOW there MUST be some depth to this music but wherever it is I just can't feel it. I need to know what the composer is attempting to convey even it it may be my own interpretation. Different composers stir different emotions in me but with Brahms there is very little that does that.

Not that he is alone. Whilst easily appreciating the music genius and wizardry of Mozart he has much the same effect, I'm afraid

I'd truly love to be converted to enthusiasm for both as it is clearly my loss, nobody elses, but I have been struggling a very long time now!

[teamsaint]

Your head is telling you something your heart doesn’t want to listen to.

like supporting a club that wins lots of trophies is a pretty good idea ?
that sort of thing?

Anyway, I don't find Brahms 1 overwrought. The finale seems to me more a refraction of various other composers ideas, than a pale shadow of LvB 9.

[Beef Oven!]

QUOTE=teamsaint;561636]like supporting a club that wins lots of trophies is a pretty good idea ?
that sort of thing?

For the first 40 years of my admiration of United, they won almost nothing. It’s odd that people think that United followers are in it just for the trophies.

Anyway, I don't find Brahms 1 overwrought.

Are you actually trying?

[Barbirollians]

Interesting comments.

Brahms' music reminds me of the garrulous guest at a house party who always has plenty to say without actually saying very much.

To each their own but some have said that Bruckner does not have much to say but takes a great time in which to say it . I would disagree with both that and your remarks about Brahms .

[Barbirollians]

Must remember that phrase....

An inversion of " Le cœur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît pas."

[Beef Oven!]

An inversion of " Le cœur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît pas."

No, it’s a Beef Oven! original.

[Beef Oven!]

The Brahms 2, Pierre Monteux VPO Eloquence that I ordered yesterday arrived this morning!

Completely new to me. Only part way through the second movement as I type, but I think it is an amazing performance. Great sound quality, too (only a tad shrill above the stave compared to contemporary recordings, which is a bit of an unfair comparison).

But the booklet is pants, no real info. Does anyone know when this performance took place?

[verismissimo]

The Brahms 2, Pierre Monteux VPO Eloquence that I ordered yesterday arrived this morning!

Completely new to me. Only part way through the second movement as I type, but I think it is an amazing performance. Great sound quality, too (only a tad shrill above the stave compared to contemporary recordings, which is a bit of an unfair comparison).

But the booklet is pants, no real info. Does anyone know when this performance took place?

Think that would be Vienna, April 1959, Beefie.

[silvestrione]

Interesting comments.

Brahms' music reminds me of the garrulous guest at a house party who always has plenty to say without actually saying very much.

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That's Mahler, surely? Brahms is concise and perfectly well-argued ( except in no. 1).

[Beef Oven!]

Think that would be Vienna, April 1959, Beefie.

Thank you very much, verismissimo.

(amazing sound quality, given the age)

[teamsaint]

For the first 40 years of my admiration of United, they won almost nothing. It’s odd that people think that United followers are in it just for the trophies.



Are you actually trying?

I was thinking about when my son was fed up following a team that never wins trophies, and asked if we could support Chelsea instead. Which seemed fair enough at the time.
Although, of course I stopped his pocket money for a month, to teach him a lesson anyway.

of course, we have won the JPT since then. I was there.

[vinteuil]

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I have never really understood how someone chooses a particular team to follow. Obviously if it's local, or if there's a family tradition - but often people seem to follow teams with which they have no obvious connection.

How does it work?

[Beef Oven!]

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I have never really understood how someone chooses a particular team to follow. Obviously if it's local, or if there's a family tradition - but often people seem to follow teams with which they have no obvious connection.

How does it work?

I saw Georgie Best giving the opposition twisted blood and Bobby Charlton commanding whole games, as a little kid in the 1960s. That did it for me.

[vinteuil]

I saw Georgie Best giving the opposition twisted blood and Bobby Charlton commanding whole games, as a little kid in the 1960s. That did it for me.

... well, yes, I can understand that you fell under the spell of those particular players - but once they had gone on to other things, why did you wish to follow that team?

Perhaps it's just that I don't get this 'following' thing...