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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
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    #16
    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Here is the VSO version - Richard Osborne liked it in Gramophone but I never got round to buying it - one can have too many records !

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mahler-Symph...enna+klemperer
    I didn't know of that version - but it's certainly not with Ferrier; the Mezzo is the same as on his studio recording.

    (The only Mahler symphony I've not heard in concert is the Eighth. Trying to decide between my antipathy towards David Hill's conducting skills and my eagerness to hear it Live.)
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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11687

      #17
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      I didn't know of that version - but it's certainly not with Ferrier; the Mezzo is the same as on his studio recording.

      (The only Mahler symphony I've not heard in concert is the Eighth. Trying to decide between my antipathy towards David Hill's conducting skills and my eagerness to hear it Live.)
      Yes I know that - there was only one performance recorded with Ferrier as I am aware in Holland in 1951 - a Ferrier /Walter recording would have been a wonder I have no doubt .

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #18
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        Yes I know that - there was only one performance recorded with Ferrier as I am aware in Holland in 1951
        Indeed - I misread your statement the live Holland Festival performance with Ferrier and the VSO record on Testament as implying that the Holland recording was "with Ferrier and the VSO", rather than "the Holland/Ferrier" is one and there's another with the VSO.

        a Ferrier /Walter recording would have been a wonder I have no doubt .
        It would, indeed.
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        • Alison
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

          (The only Mahler symphony I've not heard in concert is the Eighth. Trying to decide between my antipathy towards David Hill's conducting skills and my eagerness to hear it Live.)
          Could be a bland affair Ferney. This of all works demands a sense of occasion

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #20
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            Could be a bland affair Ferney. This of all works demands a sense of occasion


            If it had been Richard Farnes, I'd've bought my ticket the day they went on sale!
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            • EdgeleyRob
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              • Nov 2010
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              #21
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              The Solti LSO Mahler 1 and 2 are available for only £5.99 on a double decca from Amazon and I bought them after the Mahler 1 thread - hope to get to listen to them this weekend .

              I have never heard Mahler 2 in concert - I must remedy that .

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #22
                I've attended a couple of Mahler 8s at the Proms. By far the more memorable was Boulez in 1975. Alberto Remedios had a bad head cold which he fought through valiantly if not entirely successfully. No matter, the whole experience was overwhelming.
                Last edited by Bryn; 25-02-16, 00:04. Reason: Damned predictive text.

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                • EnemyoftheStoat
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1132

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  I didn't know of that version - but it's certainly not with Ferrier; the Mezzo is the same as on his studio recording.

                  (The only Mahler symphony I've not heard in concert is the Eighth. Trying to decide between my antipathy towards David Hill's conducting skills and my eagerness to hear it Live.)
                  I'd save it for another time.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11687

                    #24
                    Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                    I'd save it for another time.
                    LPO/Jurowski planned for April 2017 at the RFH !

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                    • Alison
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6455

                      #25
                      Is there no sign of a Jurowski Eighth? He has been taking them in chronological order and reached number 7 some while ago.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        Is there no sign of a Jurowski Eighth? He has been taking them in chronological order and reached number 7 some while ago.
                        I believe that he's doing it in the RFH in April next year, Alison.
                        Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 24-02-16, 21:23.
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                        • Petrushka
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          As many regulars will know, the Mahler Resurrection is my defining work, the one above all that means more to me than any other. I first heard it on the radio in 1972 with Maazel and the Philharmonia and the following year I bought Haitink's Concertgebouw set. This, as they say, blew me away and I wore the records out. My first live Resurrection was also Haitink: an LPO Prom in 1978 (my second ever Prom!).

                          I haven't done a stock check for quite some time but would hazard a guess that I have over 40 recordings of the Mahler 2. The one that has everything, and in spades, is, for me, the live 1989 LPO/Tennstedt disc, a performance at which I had the great good fortune to be present. It's not a CD to pop in the player at any old moment but one to be reserved for special occasions, an earth-shaking, overwhelming account never to be forgotten. The closing pages with the RFH organ at full throttle is more overwhelming than anything I've ever heard, just astonishing.

                          Tennstedt aside, a great favourite is another live performance, that with Haitink and the Concertgebouw on Christmas Day 1984 but as I'm not sure how available this is his BPO account is as good. However, the sense of occasion in the 1984 performance is terrific and I'd rank it one notch down from Tennstedt.

                          As for the 8th, the most memorable account I've heard live is again Tennstedt in 1991, an unforgettable Sunday afternoon in the RFH and one available on the LPO label and also on DVD. And damn - I forgot the 25th anniversary last month!
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            As many regulars will know, the Mahler Resurrection is my defining work, the one above all that means more to me than any other. I first heard it on the radio in 1972 with Maazel and the Philharmonia and the following year I bought Haitink's Concertgebouw set. This, as they say, blew me away and I wore the records out. My first live Resurrection was also Haitink: an LPO Prom in 1978 (my second ever Prom!).

                            I haven't done a stock check for quite some time but would hazard a guess that I have over 40 recordings of the Mahler 2. The one that has everything, and in spades, is, for me, the live 1989 LPO/Tennstedt disc, a performance at which I had the great good fortune to be present. It's not a CD to pop in the player at any old moment but one to be reserved for special occasions, an earth-shaking, overwhelming account never to be forgotten. The closing pages with the RFH organ at full throttle is more overwhelming than anything I've ever heard, just astonishing.

                            Tennstedt aside, a great favourite is another live performance, that with Haitink and the Concertgebouw on Christmas Day 1984 but as I'm not sure how available this is his BPO account is as good. However, the sense of occasion in the 1984 performance is terrific and I'd rank it one notch down from Tennstedt.

                            As for the 8th, the most memorable account I've heard live is again Tennstedt in 1991, an unforgettable Sunday afternoon in the RFH and one available on the LPO label and also on DVD. And damn - I forgot the 25th anniversary last month!


                            I've attended concerts of M2 about 5 or 6 times, stand-outs being Haitink and Gergiev. I've only been to M8 twice, RPO Gatti and LSO Gergiev.

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11687

                              #29
                              as much as I admire Haitink in much other repertoire his Mahler that I have heard has never really done it for me.

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                              • vibratoforever
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                                • Jul 2012
                                • 149

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                                The Solti LSO Mahler 1 and 2 are available for only £5.99 on a double decca from Amazon and I bought them after the Mahler 1 thread - hope to get to listen to them this weekend .

                                I have never heard Mahler 2 in concert - I must remedy that .
                                My first Mahler in the concert hall was in October 1969 in Sheffield, with Barbirolli and the Halle doing Mahler 2. There was a 5 minute break after the first movement with no applause as the conductor left and then returned with the soloists - supposedly in line with the composers instructions. Do they ever do this nowadays?

                                it is not my favourite Mahler so only have a few recordings and I have always been content with Bruno Walter's late-fifties recording.

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