Furtwängler's Bruckner 5: a revelation!

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  • Karafan
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    • Nov 2010
    • 786

    Furtwängler's Bruckner 5: a revelation!

    Hi all

    I rarely indulge in out and out recommendations - but in this instance it is a case of "Wow"!

    A blog site I follow pointed me (a confirmed Brucknerian) in the direction of a recording which has assumed Holy Grail status among believers, but in its latest remastering has now been stripped of years of "varnish" and is astonishing in its vividness and sense of sheer visceral excitement.

    The recording is Furtwängler's legendary, high octane, Bruckner 5, made with the BPO between 25-28 October 1942 in Berlin's Alte Philharmonie. The RRG (Reichs Rundfunk Gesellschaft) recordings from 1942-44 were spirited away ('abducted' says the booklet note!) in April 1945 by the occupying Russian forces and taken to Moscow. They never saw light of day again until about 1960 when they began appearing on crude Melodiya pressings.

    This particular recording has been issued on CD on numerous labels in the past - from DG in their seminal 1989 box of the Furtwängler's wartime recordings returned from the Soviet Union in October 1987, to Music and Arts (Aaron Z. Snyder's remastering, 2008) and recently as a download from Pristine Audio. But I have never heard it sounding as wonderful as it does on this new issue from Testament, which seems to have slinked out with unreasonably little fanfare.

    The reason for the huge improvement in the sound is that the other recordings were sourced from 38cm/s tapes which were Soviet copies of the original German 77cm/s tapes. The latter (after much detective work) were rediscovered in Russia and had survived in remarkably good condition: they have been used for this new Testament release, under licence from Rundfunk Berlin-Brandenburg.

    I have done some comparisons and the new issue blows all its competitors out of the water. I am listening to the mighty 2nd movement adagio as I write and it sounds as if it could be from the late 1950s, with a rich, deep and majestic breadth and revelatory clarity in the inner string writing. The brass chorales, tymps and pizzicati are vivid and amazingly three dimensional and it is, by a long chalk, the very best wartime Furtwängler recording I have (and I have a lot!). The performance itself, needless to say, needs no recommendation from me.

    Any Furtwängler fans need to add this to their collection without any hesitation: I'm glad I did! It really is nothing short of astonishing. The recording quality is a testament (no pun intended) both to Furtwängler's original recording engineer (presumably his exclusive sound engineer, Frederick Schnapf, was at work here) and to the remastering work carried out by Paul Baily.

    (Oh, and in a pleasing touch, the battered original cardboard tape box cover with its wartime AEG Magnetophon label and much cyrillic scrawl, is reproduced on the back of the booklet).

    Here's a link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...ef=oss_product

    Bws
    Karafan
    Last edited by Karafan; 07-05-11, 22:06.
    "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle
  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12252

    #2
    Thanks Karafan. I have the 1989 DG issue of this wonderful performance and was pondering on whether or not it was worthwhile buying this new release. Your enthusiastic comments convince me that it is!

    This Bruckner 5 always did sound to me much the finest of Furtwangler's war-time recordings with particularly good timps coming across (so important in this work).

    I shall investigate.

    Update: Had a nice win on the horses yet again this weekend so I've treated myself to this but from MDT: http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//SBT1466.htm
    Last edited by Petrushka; 07-05-11, 23:46.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • amateur51

      #3
      Many thanks for this enthusiastic review Karafan!

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12842

        #4
        Karafan - thanks for the details. I have this in the Andromeda set of his Bruckner 4-9 - but your advocacy is telling - I see I shall have to get this new edition too...

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
          • 11687

          #5
          Karafan - Archipel boasted in their release from 2000 that their transfer came from the " original broadcast tape " . Were they wrong ?

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          • Karafan
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            • Nov 2010
            • 786

            #6
            Barbirollians: It is unclear, and certainly not documented, as to whether the performances were every actually broadcast.

            My guess is that the 2000 Archipel issue will have been based on one of the inauthentic Russian copy tapes, so to state it was from "original broadcast tapes" might not be wholly inaccurate, but I very much doubt in terms of sonic quality that it would come close to the Testament issue.

            According to Testament some of these older issues are better than others, but the quality of editing and digital processing varied considerably. In some cases resonance was added (a favourite Soviet trick), ambient noise reduced to the detriment of musical quality & dynamic effects curtailed. In one instance a disturbing hum, not present on the original, was added!

            On this issue, little interventionist restoration was required, though two pizzicati missing at the beginning of the finale were borrowed from the identical figure in the opening movement and reinstated.

            The pitch has not been raised as in many previous reissues, it has been left at A=440Hz, as this was established at the international standardising conference held in London in 1939.
            "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11687

              #7
              They say that theirs is superior because it was the first from the " original broadcast tapes " it sounds pretty good anyway .

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              • silvestrione
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                • Jan 2011
                • 1708

                #8
                Many thanks Karafan. Have ordered it straight away.

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                • Karafan
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 786

                  #9
                  Silvestrione: Do let us know your thoughts when you've heard it. I doubt you'll be disappointed.

                  IMHO it's the audio equivalent of a 1950s film brought glowingly to life in Bluray!

                  Karafan
                  "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                  • Karafan
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 786

                    #10
                    Anyone else an opinion on this remastering yet? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

                    Bws

                    K.
                    "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                    • silvestrione
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                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1708

                      #11
                      yes I have my copy now, and have played it twice. It has terrific presence, depth, space...not constricted in the way so many recordings before the 50s or 60s are. The brass are a little harsh, but that may be the way they are playing. The first fortissimo entry in the first movement is like a Day of Judgement. Dynamics are fully Brucknerian, i.e. going from a whisper to 'all hell (or heaven) let loose'. Unmistakeably live (one tremulous horn wobble on an exposed high note, etc), and it is both a historical document and a great performance, in my view.

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                      • scottycelt

                        #12
                        Wow, indeed ... just ordered my copy from Amazon and can't wait to hear this amazing account in better quality recording than the one I already possess.

                        One does wonder just how many other wartime German music tapes are still lying around in basements and attics etc in old Eastern Bloc countries ... alas, probably very few, if any, now.

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                        • silvestrione
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1708

                          #13
                          Yes my copy came and I've played it twice, and it's as you say...depth, presence, space, immediacy, none of that constricted feel you get with nearly all recordings of this vintage. The brass sound is a bit harsh, perhaps that's how they were playing. The first fortissimo outburst in the first movement on brass and kettledrum is a Day of Judgement moment...It's very much live, (a tremulous wobble from the horn on an exposed high note, etc), but the dynamic range is Brucknerian, going from those silences and whispers, tentative melodies, to moments when all hell (or heaven?) is let loose. Surely a great historical document and a great performance.

                          SORRY FOR THIS REPEAT: THOUGHT MY POST HAD NOT APPEARED. THERE WAS A LONG DELAY ON MY COMPUTER

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                          • Petrushka
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12252

                            #14
                            As I said upthread this was always one of the best sounding of Furtwangler's war-time recordings and having now heard the Testament I can endorse the comments so far made.

                            One or two matters of interest though. The Testament booklet reports that the concert was recorded four times so are there 4 tapes in existence or did the original engineers make a single performance out of the four? I mention this because the 1989 DG issue gives the single date of October 28 1942 and has markedly different timings for each movement. The timings are:

                            1st movement: 19:17 (Testament), 18:56 (DG)
                            2nd movement: 15:37 (T), 15:17 (DG)
                            3rd movement: 12:04 (T), 11:49 (DG)
                            4th movement: 21:58 (T), 21:40 (DG).

                            I haven't yet managed to make a direct comparison but these differences are significant. However, I expect a cough comparison will settle whether these recordings are the same performance. Perhaps those with the Archipel and Andromeda issues can compare.
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • PJPJ
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1461

                              #15
                              My copy arrived a couple of days ago - sounds splendid indeed, and not just for the period. I understand earlier releases had a different (higher) pitch which may account for all of the timing differences.

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