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Hi Petrushka. The disc plays fine in all my other CD players which includes the car, the little cheapie machine in the kitchen, the bedside cd machine, (which I got from writing a 'letter of the month' in Gramophone!) and two other Sacd machines including a £7,000 Macintosh which belongs to a (rich!) friend.
So yes, obviously, my main Quad machine would appear to be at fault. However, the Quad machine is only 14 months old and has already played hundreds if not thousands of CDs with no problem at all. This includes charity shop CDs which are not always in the best condition. (Although I always clean them before use). This Honeck cd is the ONLY cd it's rejected. The Quad is not an sacd machine but happily plays the other sacds I have.
It's very peculiar.
That's an impressive number of alternative CD players to hand! I only have my DVD player as another source should my main player pack in.
As you say, most peculiar.
"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
AS I offered above (#8,#14) it would be fascinating to try this disc with a green CD mat on top of it.. it can work, and it's very unlikely to do any harm.... you could check about mats with Quad first, if it's that embarrassment-factor stopping you....
Did you finally ascertain exactly what type of transport is in the Quad?
AS I offered above (#8,#14) it would be fascinating to try this disc with a green CD mat on top of it.. it can work, and it's very unlikely to do any harm.... you could check about mats with Quad first, if it's that embarrassment-factor stopping you....
Did you finally ascertain exactly what type of transport is in the Quad?
I used to use a green mat with my Meridian machine but I do worry about mucking up the mechanism on the Quad.
I dropped Quad a friendly note telling them about this problem so let's see what they say.
Amazon have, predictably, been very helpful and have given me a full refund so I'll post the cd back tomorrow. (I now have £14.50 burning a hole in my pocket! )
I MAY purchase this cd again in the future when the price drops or just wait until it turns up in a charity shop.
I used to use a green mat with my Meridian machine but I do worry about mucking up the mechanism on the Quad.
I dropped Quad a friendly note telling them about this problem so let's see what they say.
Amazon have, predictably, been very helpful and have given me a full refund so I'll post the cd back tomorrow. (I now have £14.50 burning a hole in my pocket! )
I MAY purchase this cd again in the future when the price drops or just wait until it turns up in a charity shop.
There js some comment elsewhere, in the last week, about some Reference recordings being withdrawn from Streaming services & in particulare a Pittsburgh SO recording. Not sure if this the case with this recording (its not on Google Play Music at the moment, not sure if it had been there). Apparently there is a rights issue to be sorted with the players.
There js some comment elsewhere, in the last week, about some Reference recordings being withdrawn from Streaming services & in particulare a Pittsburgh SO recording. Not sure if this the case with this recording (its not on Google Play Music at the moment, not sure if it had been there). Apparently there is a rights issue to be sorted with the players.
I read somewhere, I think in a Canadian Audiophile magazine that comes out somewhat irregularly, that there were some issues with that particular disc.
Yes I did! They were sympathetic but felt that, occasionally, one was going to come across a cd that wouldn't play. It's just 'one of those things'. It's the first time in 30 years it's happened so one is pretty good going.
I'm very lucky in that the area I live in Edinburgh has a road with an impressive collection of charity shops. It's in a very affluent area of the city so classical CDs tend to be plentiful. Recently, I found and bought over 50 Beecham CDs that had been distributed between 3 shops. (A pound a pop!)
The first one I played was a recording of Beecham conducting the Beethoven 'Missa Solemnis' from 1937 on the Somm label. I was appalled when it miss-tracked after the first 5 seconds. Oh help - don't say they are ALL going to be like that, I thought. However, all the other discs I've heard have been fine.
Predictably, the faulty disc played fine in my other cheaper machines and, last night, my rich friend's Mackintosh machine played it faultlessly! (Sounding pretty terrific for a test pressing that was made almost 80 years ago!) So, once again, my Quad 'Elite' player has rejected a cd. I'm not THAT bothered since the Beecham MS isn't a disc I'd be likely to play that often.
However, what's really strange is that when I went to visit my friend last night, there was a cd of Lynn Harrell playing the Dvorak 'Cello concerto in his bin. "Should that be there?", I asked. "Alas, yes", he replied. " I bought that cd in Cornwall in a second hand bookshop but my CD player has rejected it".
Well, I dug it out, brought it home and, after a good clean, it plays fine in my Quad machine! Most odd.
Sorry to stray from topic. I sometimes wonder whether the sound quality of SACD compatible CDs is compromised. I don't have an SACD player, but my Meridian 500 series machine gives excellent results on standard CD. Listening to the CD layer of an SACD disc, I notice a slightly steely quality, just a slight feeling of discomfort. I can cite a good example with the Suzuki recordings of Bach cantatas, where earlier discs in the series are smoother to my ears than the later ones which are SACD compatible.
Does anybody else notice an effect of this kind, or is it my imagination? Interestingly, Meridian claim that they do not support SACD, although they were pioneers of surround sound using ambisonic techniques.
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