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  • mikealdren
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1201

    Review of the year

    Interesting that we are having a BAL session as well as a review of the year, good to see.

    Has anyone ever come across the reviewers before, all new to me?

    Mike
  • Alison
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6459

    #2
    Think they have all done BaL shifts in recent times. I know Helen Wallace more than the other two.

    I always used to enjoy Rodney Milnes RIP on this edition.

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 12976

      #3
      BUT they are doing it again!

      These informal chats are full of approximations, ums and errs, interruptions, talking across / laughing across each other, and in this one we have three women whose voices at first hearing are almost indistinguishable. The studio team can see each other and distinguish speakers, we can't. Doh! It's RADIO, guys, we do not have the visuals!!!

      Same comments are being made on Facebook. So the BBC takes notice of 'listener opinion' so long as it doesn't conflict with their own mindsets?

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      • Pulcinella
        Host
        • Feb 2014
        • 10963

        #4
        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
        So the BBC takes notice of 'listener opinion' so long as it doesn't conflict with their own mindsets?
        And they seem to take a similar level of (lack of) notice of comments about the Radio 3 website that they keep asking me for!

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11707

          #5
          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
          And they seem to take a similar level of (lack of) notice of comments about the Radio 3 website that they keep asking me for!
          They sounded quite different to me .

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 10963

            #6
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            They sounded quite different to me .
            ?
            Don't understand!
            What I mean is that they are always canvassing opinions (presumably to show that they care about them) but then ignore them if they don't chime with what they have already decided they want.
            How does that 'sound different'?

            Perhaps you are talking about the voices of the female contributors and have quoted the wrong post?

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11707

              #7
              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              ?
              Don't understand!
              What I mean is that they are always canvassing opinions (presumably to show that they care about them) but then ignore them if they don't chime with what they have already decided they want.
              How does that 'sound different'?

              Perhaps you are talking about the voices of the female contributors and have quoted the wrong post?
              Sorry yes meant their voices.

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              • Richard Tarleton

                #8
                Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                BUT they are doing it again!

                These informal chats are full of approximations, ums and errs, interruptions, talking across / laughing across each other, and in this one we have three women whose voices at first hearing are almost indistinguishable. The studio team can see each other and distinguish speakers, we can't. Doh! It's RADIO, guys, we do not have the visuals!!!
                Exactly, on all counts. A car-crash of a CDR, unlistenable-to.

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                • Alison
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6459

                  #9
                  I thought Helen Wallace was easily the best of the three with the others coming over as specialists with their own niche.

                  Helen with Sir Jonathan Swain and Stephen Plaistow would have suited me.

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                  • zola
                    Full Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 656

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Alison View Post
                    I thought Helen Wallace was easily the best of the three with the others coming over as specialists with their own niche.

                    Helen with Sir Jonathan Swain and Stephen Plaistow would have suited me.
                    Yes, or Stephen Johnson or David Nice. Too much similarity of choices today. There is scope for a second session of this each year, rather than AMcG reviewing the year's Christmas releases for instance.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26540

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                      A car-crash of a CDR, unlistenable-to.
                      I wouldn't go so far. I agree that the voices of die drei Damen were too similar (one could distinguish them if one concentrated, but that shouldn't have been necessary - it was a distraction from what should have been the focus of concentration); also that their choices amounted to pretty much an 'Early Music Discs of the Year' (with a couple of obvious exceptions; doversoul must have loved it! ). In both respects, the thing was badly cast and the programme flawed.

                      However I didn't really care - I had no particular interest in distinguishing who was saying what, I'm not sure who they are anyway. The main thing was hearing a variety of reasonably-informed views on some interesting performances. To that extent, I enjoyed listening to the programme - and discovered two recordings which I shall have to acquire: Schubert on fortepiano played by Schiff, and above all the Lawes Royal Consort Setts by Phantasm - which I can't wait to have on (particularly in the car!). Christmas list suitably extended
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • pastoralguy
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7764

                        #12
                        There are many sources if one is stuck for a Christmas pressie for the classical musical lover in your life. Gramophone, BBC Music magazine, the specialist music charts, along with the less specialist charts or Amazon. And that's before one considers the broadsheets recommendations!

                        Should anyone be interested in buying me a cd for Christmas, an Amazon voucher will suffice!

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                        • Petrushka
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12260

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                          There are many sources if one is stuck for a Christmas pressie for the classical musical lover in your life. Gramophone, BBC Music magazine, the specialist music charts, along with the less specialist charts or Amazon. And that's before one considers the broadsheets recommendations!

                          Should anyone be interested in buying me a cd for Christmas, an Amazon voucher will suffice!
                          I keep on telling friends about my Amazon wish list but they never take the hint and it's socks and aftershave for me again On the other hand, family are well aware of my Amazon wish list so all is not lost.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • DracoM
                            Host
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 12976

                            #14
                            Actually, Caliban has put his finger on it: after the first tranche I just didn't care enough to concentrate or listen. Just aural faff.
                            I would dearly love to know what the whole prod team at CDR thought listeners were getting out of it?
                            They had fixed excerpts already sorted, so why not give each contributor five or so minutes each to spiel their top choice, and leave it at that? No discussion, talk+music+ move on.

                            The discussion framework for me added precisely nothing and took up a lot of time that ten more R3 regulars might have taken to propose their top choices.

                            It was a brawl. Wearisome radio and totally NO help in making Xmas prezzie choices at all IMO.

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                            • doversoul1
                              Ex Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7132

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              [COLOR="#0000FF"] also that their choices amounted to pretty much an 'Early Music Discs of the Year' (with a couple of obvious exceptions; doversoul must have loved it! ).
                              Advertised on the EM on CD Review thread . And yes, I did. Very much. I was particularly glad to hear Alessandro Scarlatti’s arias and cantatas although I was a bit put off by the way in which all four of them readily agreed that A Scarlatti was neglected, forgotten, etc. There are many excellent recordings. It’s just we don’t hear his works on Radio 3.

                              I would have preferred less talk (to put it politely).

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