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Charity Shop Trawl
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Anna
This morning from The Red Cross shop, two historical recordings.
Benno Moiseiwitsch playing Rachmaninov's 2nd PC and Paginini Theme, £1.00 (EMI)
14 cd box set Artur Schnabel playing Beethoven, 32 Sonatas, 5 Concertos, Variations, Bagatelles, etc. LSO, Malcolm Sargent. £3.99 (Dante)
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Originally posted by Anna View PostThis morning from The Red Cross shop, two historical recordings.
Benno Moiseiwitsch playing Rachmaninov's 2nd PC and Paginini Theme, £1.00 (EMI)
14 cd box set Artur Schnabel playing Beethoven, 32 Sonatas, 5 Concertos, Variations, Bagatelles, etc. LSO, Malcolm Sargent. £3.99 (Dante)
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Originally posted by amateur51 View PostGreat stuff Anna - I'd be interested to hear about what those Dante releases sound like when you've had time to listen to some of them
I haven't heard the Dante releases, but the Schnabel complete Beethoven sonatas on Naxos sounds very good, with Mark-Obert Thorn doing his usual excellent job
So much depends on where the original material came from before re-mastering. M-O Thorn seems to have tried where possible to obtain American pressings, which were quieter than British pressings at that period. I wonder what source Dante used ? this can be quite a minefield.
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Anna
Originally posted by Ferretfancy View PostI haven't heard the Dante releases, but the Schnabel complete Beethoven sonatas on Naxos sounds very good, with Mark-Obert Thorn doing his usual excellent job
So much depends on where the original material came from before re-mastering. M-O Thorn seems to have tried where possible to obtain American pressings, which were quieter than British pressings at that period. I wonder what source Dante used ? this can be quite a minefield.
We shall see once they are played. But at £3.99 for 14cds they're worth a gamble, and The Red Cross gains. If I find too much snap, crackle and pop then I won't keep them and another charity shop will benefit!
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Originally posted by Anna View PostFerret, I don't know. An initial search reveals this from Audiophile and similar from ClassicalWeb: Seth Winner’s transfers for Pearl still sound very fine; there is more shellac noise, but there is also more body to the piano sound and a far clearer and focused room ambience. Dante’s Schnabel edition was also well-transferred, possibly from EMI LPs, but it lacks the immediacy of the Pearl. More recent transfers include Mark Obert-Thorn’s fine edition for Naxos Historical, which achieves a fine balance between piano tone and surface noise, and faithful to the original releases
We shall see once they are played. But at £3.99 for 14cds they're worth a gamble, and The Red Cross gains. If I find too much snap, crackle and pop then I won't keep them and another charity shop will benefit!
I often think that there's something rather special about historic piano recordings, possibly because the pianist had to approve approximately four minute sections, and that was the nearest they came to editing. To my mind this gives an integrity to the performances, certainly in the best cases. A good example is Egon Petri's 1937 recording of the Brahms Paganini and Handel Variations, I don't think they have been bettered.
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It's not exactly a charity shop I know, but on Saturday at Gramex I bought ten CDs for £40. These included a fascinating Kempe recording from the 1970s of Britten's Sinfonia da Requiem coupled with the Firebird Suite, and a two disc set of Mozart Piano Concertos with Finghin Collins. Perhaps the most interesting bargain was a live recording with Barbirolli and the Bavarian RSO, Brahms 2 and Vaughan Williams 6. This was possibly the maestro's last recording, and as far as I can tell
he never made a stereo recording of the sixth, so it was quite a find.
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Anna
As I was passing the British Heart shop I saw a book in the window I had thought of buying new at £6.99 - and there is was at £1.50!! (and it looks unread)
Back on topic: So I had a quick look at the cds and came away with a 2 cd Mahler 1 & 2, Georg Solti, LSO, (Heather Harper, Helen Watts) Decca £2.99. This is because I've never really got into Mahler and have only the 5,9 and 10th. I also bought (although I really don't need any more Beethoven), the 9th 'Choral', Colin Davis, BRSO (Philips) 99p, as I have a soft spot for Davis. If anyone was looking to increase their collection of Copland or Vivaldi today they would have been delighted - obviouisly someone had a clear out!
Unfortunately with my stereo playing up discs are having to languish for the mo
As to the historic recordings mentioned above, I have quite a few of various and love them - you can do far too much cleaning up and tweaking I think.
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Originally posted by Anna View PostAs I was passing the British Heart shop I saw a book in the window I had thought of buying new at £6.99 - and there is was at £1.50!! (and it looks unread)
Back on topic: So I had a quick look at the cds and came away with............
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Originally posted by hafod View PostInteresting you should mention the British Heart Foundation as over the last three months or so, I have noticed that some branches from time to time have had batches of classical discs in fine condition. The numbers have not been startling but more than other charity shops in the vicinity. This has been particularly noticeable because hitherto it had been my experience that BHF shops rarely provide anything of interest."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by visualnickmos View PostHere in France a few quid will get you a very fine plonk, indeed!
In the UK a "few" quid doesn't normally get much, and then there has recently been the "scandal" of the half price wines at supermarkets - i.e wines advertised at around £10-14, then reduced to half as "offers", but in fact never really worth the full price in the first place.
Today, Oxfam:
Pascal Rogé + Dutoit, Saint-Saëns, piano concertos (2 CDs)
A debut piano recital by someone with an unpronounceable name on EMI. (Alex Slobodanyik, Chopin Sonata 3, Schumann Papillons)
Some early Spanish music (c. 1700) with voice. Maybe details later.
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From Headington (can't remember which shop) - complete Liszt Hungarian Rhapsodies, played by Michelle Campanella. Brand new, still wrapped, Decca Double for £1.99
Oxfam in Broad St, Oxford - Handel, Judas Maccabaeus; Heather Harper, Helen Watts, Alexander Young & John Shirley-Quirk, ECO. Brilliant Classics, £4.99
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Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostFrom Headington (can't remember which shop) - complete Liszt Hungarian Rhapsodies, played by Michelle Campanella. Brand new, still wrapped, Decca Double for £1.99
Oxfam in Broad St, Oxford - Handel, Judas Maccabaeus; Heather Harper, Helen Watts, Alexander Young & John Shirley-Quirk, ECO. Brilliant Classics, £4.99
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Three pleasing oddities this morning in Launceston:
- Margaret Price Mendelssohn songs (helios);
- Schreier Schumann songs on Orfeo (both Liederkreise(s) plus Dichterliebe with Andras Schiff - had to be worth a punt);
- Jordi Savall doing WAM 'Serenate Notturne' (K239, 525, 286 & 522 Musical Joke).
3 x £1.99 = megabliss, hopefullyI keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!
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