Indispensable recordings 24.08.2024. Proms Composer 6: Janáček

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
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    Indispensable recordings 24.08.2024. Proms Composer 6: Janáček

    2.15 pm
    BBC Proms Composer Beethoven [sic]
    They mean Janáček, of course.

    Nigel Simeone joins Andrew to discuss five indispensable recordings of BBC Proms Composer Janacek and explains why you need to hear them.
  • smittims
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    • Aug 2022
    • 4150

    #2
    Mackerras Sinfonietta. The Pye recording rather thanthe VPO, which wasn't quite so thrilling.

    Mackerras Makropoulos case and Katya Kabanova with Elisabeth Sodertsrom

    The DG set of the piano music with Rudolf Firkusny

    Ancerl Glagolotic mass (Supraphon).

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    • Pulcinella
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      • Feb 2014
      • 10931

      #3
      Looking forward to makropulos' choices here.
      This is the first composer in this year's list without whose music I'd feel bereft.
      (Throw me out for my Philistinism if you wish!)

      Glagolitic mass
      Sinfonietta
      SQ1
      On an overgrown path
      But which opera? Jenufa or Katya?

      But which 'indispensible' recording? In the case of the mass, which performing version, for starters!
      Last edited by Pulcinella; 02-08-24, 07:42.

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      • AuntDaisy
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        • Jun 2018
        • 1646

        #4
        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
        Looking forward to makropulos' choices here.
        This is the first composer in this year's list without whose music I'd feel bereft.
        (Throw me out for my Philistinism if you wish!)

        Glagolitic mass
        Sinfonietta
        SQ1
        On an overgrown path
        But which opera? Jenufa or Katya?

        Which 'indispensible' recording? In the case of the mass, which performing version, for starters!
        I'm with smittims and "The Makropulos Case" Mackerras / Söderström (although the Mackerras / Cheryl Barker gets played just as often - the legalese sounds bettter / more tedious in English).
        Both String Quartets - probably Pavel Haas Quartet (but that's two CDs plus the Haas)
        Glagolitic mass (Proms '78 because Patricia Hughes presents, BBC SO & Norman Del Mar).
        Sinfonietta (Mackerras)
        "Notes from Janacek's Diary" - the radio portrait with John Moffatt, "Compiled from from his writings and fragments of his unrealised music by Mike Steer."

        Plus the whole of Radio 3's 2004 Janacek Day

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
          • 22120

          #5
          Sinfonietta Ancerl, Kubelik, Abbado
          Glagolitic Mass Ancerl, Kempe
          Taras Bulba Ancerl, Kubelik
          Lachian Dances Huybrechts
          True Love (Song a cappells for TTBB voices)

          We must be grateful for Mackerras’ contribution to the wider appreciation of Janacek’s music, and some great recordings.

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          • mikealdren
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1200

            #6
            Quartets Janacek Quartet

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            • Pulcinella
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              • Feb 2014
              • 10931

              #7
              Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
              Quartets Janacek Quartet


              My old CfP LP was nearly worn out.

              I'm sure you'll remember the discussion here:

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              • richardfinegold
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                • Sep 2012
                • 7666

                #8
                My choices:
                MacKerras Sinfonietta and Taras Bulba with the VPO
                SQs- 2 Versions First the Janacek Quartet, then the Mandelring Qt which overs the Viola’amore alternative for #2
                Firkusny Piano Collection (repackaged various was)
                Suk in the Violin SonatAncerl in Glagolithic Mass

                the operas interest me but I don’t know enough to discuss competing versions, etc

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                • Opinionated Knowall
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                  • Jan 2014
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                  #9
                  Wot no Cunning Little Vixen? Mackerras is fabulous.

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                  • CallMePaul
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                    • Jan 2014
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                    #10
                    I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned The Diary of One who Disappeared - a fine cycle even if the lyrics are not by a major poet (but then would Muller be rated highly without Schubert's cycles?). I have the Bostridge/ Ades version (a pity he has not recorded Philip Larkin's versions of the poems). My preference for the Sinfonietta is Mackerras/ VPO; for the quartets I find it hard to choose between the mandelring and Belcea quartets, with the inclusion of the viola d'amore version of the second just tipping the balance in favour of the former. I agree that Firkusny's is the best version of the piano music and I would particularly mention the rarely-played Capriccio for left-hand and ensemble.

                    Regarding the operas, I would probably go for the Mackerras Katya Kabanová with an honourable mention for his From the House of the Dead, an opera which I saw a few years ago in an |Opera North production.
                    Last edited by CallMePaul; 04-08-24, 17:33. Reason: Clarification

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                    • oliver sudden
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                      • Feb 2024
                      • 612

                      #11
                      For the Diary there is a splendid CD coupling recordings by Beno Blachut and Nicolai Gedda. I had no idea just how musical the ř sound can be before I heard the former and that is a VERY long way from being the best thing about it.

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                      • akiralx
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                        • Oct 2011
                        • 427

                        #12
                        Taras Bulba: Cleveland O/Dohnanyi (coupled with a very fine Dvorak 6)

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                        • Mandryka
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                          • Feb 2021
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                          #13
                          I plump for Quartetto Energie Nove's CD of the two quartets and Josef Palenicek playing On an overgrown path and the cartoon version of Cunning Little Vixen

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                          • kernelbogey
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Any recommendations please for On An Overgrown Path Book 1? I used to have a perfect recording off air on cassette, currently misplaced. I think Firkusny.

                            I want to buy it for a friend so CD only please of just this work, or OAOP Books 1 & 2.

                            Thanks for suggestions.

                            (If you don't know it, seek out this wonderful work!)

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                            • Mandryka
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                              • Feb 2021
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                              Any recommendations please for On An Overgrown Path Book 1? I used to have a perfect recording off air on cassette, currently misplaced. I think Firkusny.

                              I want to buy it for a friend so CD only please of just this work, or OAOP Books 1 & 2.

                              Thanks for suggestions.

                              (If you don't know it, seek out this wonderful work!)
                              I don't think you'll get a commercial CD of just Bk 1. You'll have to make one.


                              My favourite is Palenicek's first recording,1943 I think, which as far as I am aware has never been commercially liberated from the vinyl. If you PM me I can let you have the files of my transfer.

                              If not, I thought Austbø was wonderful too. And Palenicek's second, Schiff -- you already know Firkusny.
                              Last edited by Mandryka; 17-08-24, 18:53.

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