Indispensable recordings 20.07.2024. Proms Composer 1: Verdi

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    • Apr 2014
    • 6779

    #31
    Originally posted by LHC View Post

    The Sanctus in the Requiem is an 8 part fugue for double chorus and there is another fugue towards the end of the Libera Me.
    Thanks . Good thread this ,
    Must listen to the Pappano Trovatore….

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    • Mandryka
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      • Feb 2021
      • 1535

      #32
      And I thought I was being clever and witty . . .

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      • Sir Velo
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        • Oct 2012
        • 3227

        #33
        You both were. Punch gloves and make up!

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12815

          #34
          Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
          Here are my five then

          Marie Claire Alain's first Art of Fugue (Musical Heritage Society)
          Gustav Leonhardt's second Art of Fugue (Deutsche Harmonia Mundi)
          Matteo Messori's Art of Fugue
          Rudof Scheidegger's Art of Fugue
          Wolfgang Rubsam's third Art of Fugue (Counterpoint Records)
          Håkan Wikman's Art of Fugue
          ... well, interesting certainly. But for me, not as indispensable as

          Davitt Moroney 1985 harmonia mundi
          Davitt Moroney 2002 abrsm
          Grigory Sokolov
          Richard Troeger
          V Ghielmi & il suonar parlante
          Kenneth Gilbert
          Calefax
          Hermann Scherchen 1949
          André Isoir
          Zoltán Kocsis

          o, that seems to be ten...

          Verdi, you say?

          well, meh, when I'm in a particularly 19th century Italian frame of mind, I suppose.

          I quite like

          Simon Boccanegra, Abbado
          Don Carlos, Pappano
          Don Carlo, Giulini
          Falstaff, JE Gardiner

          and this is fun :




          .

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          • Rolmill
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            • Nov 2010
            • 634

            #35
            I love Verdi - for me:

            Simon Boccanegra - Abbado
            Requiem - Giulini
            Aida - Solti
            Otello - Levine
            Falstaff - Toscanini

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              #36
              I’m not a great Verdi fan, so I limit my choice to four:

              Karajan Aïda (Decca)
              Barbirolli Otello
              Solti Requiem
              Solti Falstaff

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              • smittims
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                • Aug 2022
                • 4141

                #37
                What a pity we don't hear any of these recordings on Radio 3! I well remember the days when they routinely played complete operas 'on gramophone records'.

                Mention of the Solti (Decca) Requiem reminds me that for no particular reason I've never heard this famous recording, one of John Culshaw's last in his long-running Decca series. We could have another thread: 'famous recordings you've never heard'.

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 10921

                  #38
                  For many Italians (especially those of the Lega Nord), I imagine that ANY recording of Va pensiero would be indispensable (though they'd all know it by heart anyway).



                  Like Alpie, I'm not a great Verdi fan, though he's not unrepresented in my CD collection (and of course I could now stream pretty much what takes my fancy should the urge come over me).

                  I suspect that my collection has been built from recommendations one way or another, but not many have hitherto been mentioned (that I've noticed).

                  Requiem: LSO/Hickox; Atlanta SO/Shaw (c/w operatic choruses); Chicago SO/Solti (RCA); and a BBC MM release (BBCSO/Pritchard)
                  Four Sacred Pieces: BPO/Muti; Atlanta SO/Shaw
                  Falstaff: NBC/Toscanini (live New York, 1950)
                  Otello : VPO/Solti
                  Rigoletto: LSO/Bonynge; Acccademia Nationale di Santa Cecilia/Sinopoli
                  La Traviata: Met Opera House Orchestra/Bonynge (live New York 1970)
                  Il Trovatore: Orchestra of La Scala Milan/Serafin

                  But I wouldn't claim any as indispensable.

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                  • mikealdren
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1200

                    #39
                    Originally posted by smittims View Post
                    What a pity we don't hear any of these recordings on Radio 3! I well remember the days when they routinely played complete operas 'on gramophone records'.

                    Mention of the Solti (Decca) Requiem reminds me that for no particular reason I've never heard this famous recording, one of John Culshaw's last in his long-running Decca series. We could have another thread: 'famous recordings you've never heard'.
                    In its day it was unfavourably compared with the Giulini recording but I've always loved it, very dramatic and the recording still sounds good.

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                    • akiralx
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                      • Oct 2011
                      • 427

                      #40
                      Il trovatore - Giulini
                      Rigoletto - Sinopoli
                      Requiem - Jansons
                      Complete overtures and ballet music - Downes
                      Paraphrase on Simon Bocanegra (Liszt) - Arrau

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                      • Pulcinella
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                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10921

                        #41
                        Did anyone listen?

                        There is no indispensable information on the website but the playlist includes FOUR Verdi items.
                        I tried a copy and paste but the format got the better of me.


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                        • Ein Heldenleben
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                          • Apr 2014
                          • 6779

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                          Did anyone listen?

                          There is no indispensable information on the website but the playlist includes FOUR Verdi items.
                          I tried a copy and paste but the format got the better of me.

                          Yes I did. That Caballe Aïda is good (well they all are really )
                          • Giuseppe Verdi


                            Ernani: Act IV Trio

                            Performer: Ezio Flagello. Singer: Carlo Bergonzi. Singer: Leontyne Price. Conductor: Thomas Schippers.
                            • VERDI: ERNANI ((REMASTERED)).
                            • SONY CLASSICAL.
                            • 11.
                          • Giuseppe Verdi


                            Aida, Act 3: "O patra mia"

                            Performer: Montserrat Caballé. Performer: Plácido Domingo. Performer: Fiorenza Cossotto. Performer: Nicolaï Ghiaurov. Performer: Piero Cappuccilli. Orchestra: New Philharmonia Orchestra. Conductor: Riccardo Muti.
                            • VERDI: AIDA.
                            • WARNER CLASSICS.
                            • 4.
                          • Giuseppe Verdi


                            Don Carlos, Act 5: "Au revoir dans un monde où la vie est meilleure"

                            Choir: Chœur du Théâtre du Châtelet. Orchestra: Orchestre de Paris. Conductor: Sir Antonio Pappano.
                            • VERDI: DON CARLOS (LIVE).
                            • WARNER CLASSICS.
                            • 45.
                          • Giuseppe Verdi


                            Simon Boccanegra, Act I: "Orfanella il tetto umile"

                            Lyricist: Francesco Maria Piave. Lyricist: Giuseppe Montanelli. Lyricist: Antonio García Gutiérrez. Orchestra: Orchestra of La Scala, Milan. Conductor: Claudio Abbado.
                            • VERDI: SIMON BOCCANEGRA.
                            • DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON (DG).
                            • 11.

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                          • Pulcinella
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                            • Feb 2014
                            • 10921

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                            Yes I did.
                            .....
                            Thanks.
                            That's what I'd found and copied across, but in my attempt to strip out the images to save space it all went mad!

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                            • Retune
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                              • Feb 2022
                              • 314

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                              There is no indispensable information on the website but the playlist includes FOUR Verdi items.
                              The missing one is the 1964 Giulini / Philharmonia studio Requiem (EMI, now Warner). From 31.03 on BBC Sounds.

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                              • Ein Heldenleben
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                                • Apr 2014
                                • 6779

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                                Thanks.
                                That's what I'd found and copied across, but in my attempt to strip out the images to save space it all went mad!
                                Stripping out images is Ph,D level . I’m barely GCSE

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