Indispensable recordings 20.07.2024. Proms Composer 1: Verdi

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 10894

    Indispensable recordings 20.07.2024. Proms Composer 1: Verdi

    Posting a new thread here after all, as I fear my post in the Summer BaL early start thread may have been overlooked.
    If there's enough interest, we could have a new sub-forum with a new topic each week or a single thread rather like the Tribune thread.
    All thoughts/comments welcome.

    Post (slightly amended) copied below.

    Given that during the Proms we have a series of 'indispensable recordings' of selected Proms Composers, I wonder if there's any appetite for these being posted and our own choices made and discussed.

    The first scheduled one for 2024 is on 20 July:

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    BBC Proms Composer: Giuseppe Verdi
    Roger Parker picks five indispensable recordings of BBC Proms Composer Giuseppe Verdi.
  • silvestrione
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    • Jan 2011
    • 1700

    #2
    This seems a good idea, but I don't know enough about Verdi to join in on this first one!

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    • Ein Heldenleben
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      • Apr 2014
      • 6754

      #3
      Ok to kick things off indispensable Verdi

      Simon Boccanegra Abbado La Scala*
      Falstaff Karajan and Toscanini recordings
      Otello Domingo Scotto Levine
      La Traviata Georghiu Solti DVD Sutherland Pavarotti CD

      that’s my five ( plus one DVD)

      there are plenty of others

      * saw this live - one of the greatest opera performances that I’ve ever seen . Better than the Domingo Price Kleiber Otello and that is saying something.

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      • Pulcinella
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        • Feb 2014
        • 10894

        #4
        Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
        Ok to kick things off indispensable Verdi

        Simon Boccanegra Abbado La Scala*
        Falstaff Karajan and Toscanini recordings
        Otello Domingo Scotto Levine
        La Traviata Georghiu Solti DVD Sutherland Pavarotti CD

        that’s my five ( plus one DVD)

        there are plenty of others

        * saw this live - one of the greatest opera performances that I’ve ever seen . Better than the Domingo Price Kleiber Otello and that is saying something.
        What? No Requiem or Four Sacred Pieces?

        Let's see how this goes and if there are other contributions I might ask ff to restructure into a sub-forum for us.
        Thanks for getting the CD player spinning for us.

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        • Ein Heldenleben
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          • Apr 2014
          • 6754

          #5
          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

          What? No Requiem or Four Sacred Pieces?

          Let's see how this goes and if there are other contributions I might ask ff to restructure into a sub-forum for us.
          Thanks for getting the CD player spinning for us.
          Deliberately restricted myself to the Operas because that , supremely , was Verdi’s art form .
          Also the Requiem gives me the creeps .

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          • Pulcinella
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            • Feb 2014
            • 10894

            #6
            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

            Deliberately restricted myself to the Operas because that , supremely , was Verdi’s art form .
            Also the Requiem gives me the creeps .

            For me, it's a prime example of stop/start music that I don't much take to.
            Run with an idea, stop, change key, start with another.
            Probably heresy to admit it!

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            • richardfinegold
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              • Sep 2012
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              #7
              Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
              This seems a good idea, but I don't know enough about Verdi to join in on this first one!
              Same here

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
                • 6754

                #8
                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post


                For me, it's a prime example of stop/start music that I don't much take to.
                Run with an idea, stop, change key, start with another.
                Probably heresy to admit it!
                It has some sublime moments but for me it doesn’t gel.

                From 1973 to approx 1980 I was a confirmed Wagnerian , Straussian and Mozartian . Then I saw Abbado’s Boccanegra at Covent Garden and the Domingo / Kleiber Otello and I finally got it.

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 10894

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                  It has some sublime moments but for me it doesn’t gel.

                  From 1973 to approx 1980 I was a confirmed Wagnerian , Straussian and Mozartian . Then I saw Abbado’s Boccanegra at Covent Garden and the Domingo / Kleiber Otello and I finally got it.
                  Perhaps better to attend as a concert than to spin at home?
                  I remember a very vivid and visceral Solti RAH performance I was at (around the time of his RCA recording?).

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
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                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6754

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                    Perhaps better to attend as a concert than to spin at home?
                    I remember a very vivid and visceral Solti RAH performance I was at (around the time of his RCA recording?).
                    Never seen it live . The operas dozens of times . Even the so called lesser ones have always some element of compelling drama . Nothing quite like it really…discs don’t capture that.

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                    • smittims
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                      • Aug 2022
                      • 4088

                      #11
                      I'd say

                      The Columbia Callas/Serafin Rigoletto
                      The Columbia/Karajan Falstaff
                      The Decca/Karajan Vienna Opera Aida
                      The HMV Karajan/ Vickers Otello
                      The Fricsay DG Requiem

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                      • mikealdren
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1199

                        #12
                        Just one for me, Toscanini's last act of Rigoletto.

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                        • LMcD
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                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8410

                          #13
                          Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                          This seems a good idea, but I don't know enough about Verdi to join in on this first one!
                          Same here.

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                          • kernelbogey
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5736

                            #14
                            Toscanini's Otello.

                            Edit: I believe it has twice been the final BAL recommendation
                            Last edited by kernelbogey; 30-06-24, 15:16.

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                            • smittims
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                              • Aug 2022
                              • 4088

                              #15
                              Yes, on reflection the Tocanini Otello is more 'indispensible ' than the Karajan.

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