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  • amateur51
    • Nov 2024

    EMI Icons series

    Early on in this series' life, I recall reading some uncomplimentary remarks about the transfers, documentation, etc.

    I'm interested in hearing from people who have bought any of this series regarding the transfer quality issue raised. I'm particularly interested in hearing about the Edwin Fischer edition with regard to the JS Bach Well-tempered Clavier set, which is also available on Naxos, probably at greater cost than EMI's.

    All comments gratefully received
  • Don Petter

    #2
    I have the Larrocha box, which has the 'new' EMI transfers which were done in Spain a few years ago, and until now could only be obtained directly from that country. Highly recommended!

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    • rauschwerk
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1481

      #3
      I have the Solomon box. EMI have seen fit to make new transfers of, amongst others, Brahms Concerto 2 (already available on Testament) and Tchaikovsky 1 (previously issued in the Tchaikovsky Historical set). I don't know why. The older versions are preferable to my ears, though not by much. The piano sound in the solo pieces is first-rate.

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      • amateur51

        #4
        Thank you both for your useful replies.

        It was the negative reviews of the Solomon box that put me off initially, I now recall rauschwerk but you have reassured me

        And de Larrocha! What temptation, Don!

        I can feel an Easter treat coming on - not chocolate either - the diabetes nurse will be pleased! Result!

        Any more suggestions/advice?

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        • mathias broucek
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1303

          #5
          I purchased the Stoki set after a recommendation on this forum. Some of it sounds exceptional for the period (1957-59). Where the sound is rougher it sounds more like a poor original than a poor transfer.

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          • rubbernecker

            #6
            I bought the Schnabel set a couple of weeks ago, a bit of a steal at twelve quid, which sounds as well as can be.

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            • Pianorak
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3127

              #7
              I've got the Edwin Fischer EMI Classics recordings of Bach's "48" the recorded sound of which doesn't really appeal to me. But let me quote from Alfred Brendel's Foreword: . . . Fischer manages the unexpected: to marry childlike simplicity to the sensitivity and wisdom of a master. His control was sometimes impeded by the boldness of his impetuosity and by nervous anxieties, but in his famous recording of the '48', it is particularly in the second half of Book 1 that we hear him virtually free of such restraints. To me, the result is magical. The inner glow of Fischer's incomparably luminous sound is ideally captured by the 1933-6 recordings, the quality of which should make many a modern sound engineer blush.

              My favourite recordings of the '48' are those by Sviatoslav Richter on RCA Victor - but than I'm not yet a fully paid-up member of the HIPP movement.
              My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11687

                #8
                The sound on the Richter Icon set is hard and unpleasant almost throughout - very disappointing

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                • Pianorak
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3127

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  The sound on the Richter Icon set is hard and unpleasant almost throughout . . .
                  er - closely miked, giving the illusion of sitting right next to the pianist - which is how I like it. Horses for courses?
                  My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                  • LeMartinPecheur
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4717

                    #10
                    I've recently bought the Gieseking box and am not thrilled at all by the sound quality on the first three discs, which is as far as I've got. But I've not heard the originals so can't say whether it's the current transfers that are at fault. When I get as far as discs 6 & 7, Debussy I'll be able to compare with earlier EMI CD transfers that are already on my shelves.
                    I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                    • gurnemanz
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7387

                      #11
                      I've just ordered the new Elisabeth Schumann box. I already have most of the Schubert Lieder but it looks like an interesting selection and I found the very reasonable price of £8.99 for 6 discs at HMV (Amazon are charging £14). I will report back.

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                      • PJPJ
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1461

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        I've recently bought the Gieseking box and am not thrilled at all by the sound quality on the first three discs, which is as far as I've got. But I've not heard the originals so can't say whether it's the current transfers that are at fault. When I get as far as discs 6 & 7, Debussy I'll be able to compare with earlier EMI CD transfers that are already on my shelves.
                        I've never found the Debussy recording quality satisfactory for the period and assume the original recording is to blame?

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #13
                          I am tempted to buy the Emil Gilels 'Icon'. Anyone else has this?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • amateur51

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            I am tempted to buy the Emil Gilels 'Icon'. Anyone else has this?
                            I'm keen on this one too, BBM.

                            It's on my list

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                            • Pianorak
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3127

                              #15
                              Gilels - tempting?
                              Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
                              My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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