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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18021

    Musical Desserts

    I was amused at the putting of words to Beethoven's violin concerto in last week's BAL. I think the words were "we must have jelly ...."

    Sometimes putting words to music may ruin the music for those who've never associated words with music. I recall a sentence relating to the last movement of Tchaikovsky's 4th symphony, though I can't remember it. Something to do with "da da da da daaa dada Russian" - fill in the "das" with appropriate words.

    Another sentence fits Prokofiev's flute sonata at one point - "If you want to know the time ask a policeman".

    Happy listening!
  • Curalach

    #2
    There is a round associated with the scherzo of Bruckner 7 which goes something like-
    I've just stepped in the s*it followed by, He's just etc, She's just etc.
    I'm sure one of our (ex) orchestral players will be able to quote it correctly.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #3
      There are many of these (Brahms 2 springs to mind) that Orchestral players have been known to sing
      but i'm far too polite to post them here

      did you like the Dessert Music ? Shame they aren't doing that at the proms

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      • 3rd Viennese School

        #4
        It’s Tchaikovsky 5. Motto theme.

        “I’ve lost the key to the toilet”

        And the finale is

        “I’ve FOUND the key to the toilet!”

        Not that I know this. The lead violinist told us at a concert once.

        3VS

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          #5
          Schubert's Unfinished Symphony, 1st movement, 2nd subject:
          "This is the symphony that Schubert wrote and never fin-ished."

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          • Norfolk Born

            #6
            I heard that the words to the last movement of the Beethoven violin concerto, taught to dilatory conductors by the first violins, were: 'The bar is open, the bar is open, so move along before closing time'

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26538

              #7
              I think my favourite is Beecham's for the march theme of Tchaikovsky 6 third movement: "I'm - on my way to Paris... and the wife's - going to stay - at - home!"
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • amateur51

                #8
                Originally posted by Curalach View Post
                There is a round associated with the scherzo of Bruckner 7 which goes something like-
                I've just stepped in the s*it followed by, He's just etc, She's just etc.
                I'm sure one of our (ex) orchestral players will be able to quote it correctly.
                Such a shame no-one passed this invaluable piece of advice on to Glorious John, seen here struggling to get a recalcitrant Hallé to pick up its skirts with menace

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26538

                  #9
                  Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                  Such a shame no-one passed this invaluable piece of advice on to Glorious John, seen here struggling to get a recalcitrant Hallé to pick up its skirts with menace

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKleyVaXMhA
                  Long been one of my favourite conducting clips, that... Why on earth don't the bloody strings pick it up quicker?!! Even at the end they're not doing what he wants. Cold morning in Manchester, perhaps, and excessive consumption of Boddingtons...
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26538

                    #10
                    Another rather ruder words-to-orchestral number has just occurred to me, from German orchestral playing friends - the big brass theme in the Wagner Prelude to Act 3 of Lohengrin, which ideally accompanies the words "Leck mich am Arsch, Herr Direktor"...

                    For German speakers: apologies. For non-German speakers: a disobliging remark at the expense of the conductor.
                    ..
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Petrushka
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12253

                      #11
                      I remember Sir Georg Solti fitting repetitions of 'Barbican, Barbican' to the finale of Beethoven 7. He had an impish grin on his face as he said it but, alas, I think of his little joke every time I hear rhe piece.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20570

                        #12
                        Talking of George Solti, there's a reference in John Culshaw's Ring Resounding to Solti's insistence on getting the accents right in the Ride of the Valkyies, demonstrating this with the words: "I'm sick on a seesaw, sick on a seesaw, sick on a seesaw, sick on the sea". The point was that the accent should be on "sick", rather than see...(sea).

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                        • 3rd Viennese School

                          #13
                          And, of course, who can forget that Nursery Rhyme in Prokofiev Symphony no.2 mvt 2 Variation 5.

                          Pattercake man!
                          Pattercake Man!
                          Pattercake Pattercake
                          Baker’s Man!

                          3VS

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                          • Norfolk Born

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            Another rather ruder words-to-orchestral number has just occurred to me, from German orchestral playing friends - the big brass theme in the Wagner Prelude to Act 3 of Lohengrin, which ideally accompanies the words "Leck mich am Arsch, Herr Direktor"...

                            For German speakers: apologies. For non-German speakers: a disobliging remark at the expense of the conductor.
                            ..
                            I don't think much knowledge of German is required to get more than just the gist of your quotation. It occurs to me that the words 'Kiss Me Goodnight, Sergeant-Major' would also fit the tune.
                            Many years ago, I had the unalloyed pleasure of watching Timothy West recite the line about Paris when he played Sir Thomas in Ned Sherrins's 'Beecham'.

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26538

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ofcachap View Post
                              It occurs to me that the words 'Kiss Me Goodnight, Sergeant-Major'


                              Are you too young to have done National Service, Ofca? Or is this a flashback to happy days... and nights?!?!
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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