Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte
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Thanks Ferney. I notice there's a Dutton set of all the LPO/Beecham Mozart symphonies. I've just ordered it. (I already have the RPO ones. -
Ingrid Haebler in JC Bach concertosComment
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I suppose there are quite a lot of largely forgotten singers (or, if not forgotten, rarely heard on radio) but here is a voice I love to hear:
An issue slightly separate from performance styles is whether before the last war there was greater differentiation in character between individual voices, so that particular voices stood out, compared with more recently - perhaps as a result of increasing homogeneity of performing styles across countries (and perhaps in teaching also) and the greater precision required by the age of recording. And possibly this is also true of pianists and other soloists.Comment
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Ref msg 49 its the 1959 recording by Sargent, I don't think I've heard the earlier one but if it is with similar scale forces then I'm pretty sure to like it!
May I endorse the admiration expressed above for Beecham in Mozart, especially with the RPO in the 39th - still my favourite performance on record. Come to think of it Beecham with any orchestra attracts me, ditto Monteux.Comment
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Actually that's not how it works.Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
I used to know someone who worked for a company who made "yearbooks" for the fashion industry. What they did was to produce a book of references, colours, shapes, textures etc that would be used by fabric manufacturers to create the material that would be available in three years time and also used as a sourcebook for designers. This was informed by 'high fashion' but was not (as some assume) dictated by it. There is no point in spending months designing something in a fabric that isn't manufactured, and the manufacturing process isn't instant.Comment
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de los Angeles and Barbirolli in Dido and Aeneas - I know it is terribly unHIPP but it is very moving .Comment
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Beecham's and Marriner's Dublin recordings of the Messiah are the only ones I can listen to.
Is Klemperer's Haydn supposed to be politically incorrect?Comment
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This thread has rather bewildered me - I had no idea that so many recordings that I love were actually considered "unfashionable" by anybody! Does anyone really think that Bernstein's VPO Mozart recordings are "unfashionable"? Has any idio ... err ... anyone actually said this??! And what is Conchis' "politically correct" comment supposed to mean?
I'm beginning to think that I don't have any "fashionable" recordings at all - which is rather a surprise: hitherto, I've always assumed that, if I enjoyed a performance, that automatically made it "fashionable"
! The entire repertoire that has been discussed so far is itself "unfashionable" - unless we accept Alpie's suggestion that "fashionable" means "only approved of by a few".
Recently, I loved listening to Franck Bedrossian's Manifesto, Eroicas from Karajan and Krivine, Ferrier's Pergolesi, and Right Said Fred. Which (if any) of these are "unfashionable" and why? - I'd be genuinely interested to hear.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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Bernstein's VPO Mozart is b****y brilliant!Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
Check out the DG box set of his VPO Mozart - I challenge anyone not to feel invigorated by it.... (unless they are indeed, said idiot!)
Who gives a stuff about 'fashion?' and what the hell is 'fashion' in any case, when it comes to music?Comment
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1 Bernstein's Mozart is big band hence for many that is unfashionable - consider the extraordinary rarity of a Mozart symphony in the programmes of symphony orchestras - only the Aurora playing no 40 last year and they are a chamber outfit - has played one at the Proms in recent years .Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostThis thread has rather bewildered me - I had no idea that so many recordings that I love were actually considered "unfashionable" by anybody! Does anyone really think that Bernstein's VPO Mozart recordings are "unfashionable"? Has any idio ... err ... anyone actually said this??! And what is Conchis' "politically correct" comment supposed to mean?
I'm beginning to think that I don't have any "fashionable" recordings at all - which is rather a surprise: hitherto, I've always assumed that, if I enjoyed a performance, that automatically made it "fashionable"! The entire repertoire that has been discussed so far is itself "unfashionable" - unless we accept Alpie's suggestion that "fashionable" means "only approved of by a few".
Recently, I loved listening to Franck Bedrossian's Manifesto, Eroicas from Karajan and Krivine, Ferrier's Pergolesi, and Right Said Fred. Which (if any) of these are "unfashionable" and why? - I'd be genuinely interested to hear.
2 Karajan is completely out of fashion - it almost seems obligatory in a BAL nowadays for the Karajan version to be sneered at or airily dismissed
3 Ferrier's singing of the baroque repertoire may be less sniffed at than it was - I remember plainly reading a very sniffy review of the Bach Handel arias record with Boult in the late 1990s that treated those recordings as quaint despite her singing
4 Right Said Fred were a novelty act and always terrible ! Fashion passed them byComment
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Originally posted by visualnickmos View PostBernstein's VPO Mozart is b****y brilliant! Check out the DG box set of his VPO Mozart - I challenge anyone not to feel invigorated by it.... (unless they are indeed, said idiot!)
Who gives a stuff about 'fashion?' and what the hell is 'fashion' in any case, when it comes to music?
I don't care about fashion. I listen to Bernie's VPO Mozart wearing a tank-top 
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it's the poo-pooing that's the indicator here, ferney. See Blackadder IV.Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
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Yes this thread is all about pooh-poohing the pooh poohs !Originally posted by verismissimo View Postit's the poo-pooing that's the indicator here, ferney. See Blackadder IV.Comment
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