Mozart "Gran Partita" K361

[David-G]

I am considering this as a Christmas present - I wonder if you knowledgeable folks on the Forum can recommend a recording? I might be inclined to prefer a "HIPP" performance. Thank you in advance!

[teamsaint]

I am considering this as a Christmas present - I wonder if you knowledgeable folks on the Forum can recommend a recording? I might be inclined to prefer a "HIPP" performance. Thank you in advance!

this would make a very nice present, and maybe leave a few bob in the budget for a nice card ?!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Soloists-Chamber-Orchestra-Europe/dp/B0000CBHYV/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1418851627&sr=1-4&keywords=mozart+wind+soloists+chamber+orchestra

hours of lovely music, beautifully played.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

If you want HIPP, you can't go far wrong with AAM/Hogwood in Mozart.

Though Marriner's a good non-HIPP alternative.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

There's a lovely double album DECCA recording of the Gran Partita together with six other Wind Serenades performed by the Amadeus Winds conducted by Christopher Hogwood for around a tenner, D-G:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Wind-Serenades-Amadeus-Winds/dp/B000024A0A/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1418852179&sr=1-4&keywords=mozart%2C+gran+partitA

... it gets one poor review on this Amazon site, but as that refers to "extraneous bow sounds" (there aren't any string players involved!) I don't think it needs to be taken seriously.

Less easily obtainable - but worth bearing in mind if you see it second-hand or in a charity shop - is the BBC Music Magazine cover CD, with the Wind soloists of the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment, directed by Anthony Halstead:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Wind-Serenade-flat-Partita/dp/B00K4COL4K/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1418852732&sr=1-1&keywords=mozart%2C+gran+partita%2C+anthony+halstead

And, away from HIPP recordings, I wouldn't be without Furtwangler (Mono sound notwithstanding):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Serenade-Eine-Kleine-Nachtmusik/dp/B000CEVU12/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1418852902&sr=1-3&keywords=mozart%2C+serenade%2C+Furtwangler

[Purcellian]

Less easily obtainable - but worth bearing in mind if you see it second-hand or in a charity shop - is the BBC Music Magazine cover CD, with the Wind soloists of the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment, directed by Anthony Halstead:

You don't need to scour the charity shops for 2nd hand copies, as this period-instrument Mozart '13 wind' CD is easily obtainable brand new at a very low price of £2.90 plus P&P from this shop:

http://halsteadmusic.co.uk/shop/cds/mozart-serenade-for-12-winds-and-double-bass-k361

I've just bought half a dozen for Xmas presents!

[makropulos]

Well worth thinking about this one. Not on old instruments but certainly HIPP-inspired, and a truly lovely performance in my view:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Serenade-K361-Wolfgang-Amadeus/dp/B000003CZY

[Gordon]

There's a lovely double album DECCA recording of the Gran Partita together with six other Wind Serenades performed by the Amadeus Winds conducted by Christopher Hogwood for around a tenner, D-G:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Wind-Serenades-Amadeus-Winds/dp/B000024A0A/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1418852179&sr=1-4&keywords=mozart%2C+gran+partitA

... it gets one poor review on this Amazon site, but as that refers to "extraneous bow sounds" (there aren't any string players involved!) I don't think it needs to be taken seriously.

Less easily obtainable - but worth bearing in mind if you see it second-hand or in a charity shop - is the BBC Music Magazine cover CD, with the Wind soloists of the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment, directed by Anthony Halstead:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Wind-Serenade-flat-Partita/dp/B00K4COL4K/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1418852732&sr=1-1&keywords=mozart%2C+gran+partita%2C+anthony+halstead

And, away from HIPP recordings, I wouldn't be without Furtwangler (Mono sound notwithstanding):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Seren...2C+Furtwangler

Isn't there an optional double bass part? The Hogwood is very good but I like the old Netherlands WE on Philips - first recording I had etc.

[Roehre]

... it gets one poor review on this Amazon site, but as that refers to "extraneous bow sounds" (there aren't any string players involved!) I don't think it needs to be taken seriously....

Be careful here, as the bassoon part may well be performed on a double bass

[richardfinegold]

I had bought a recording by the Collegium Aureum, probably dating from the early 1970s, and it's still what I turn to.

[Tony Halstead]

Isn't there an optional double bass part? The Hogwood is very good but I like the old Netherlands WE on Philips - first recording I had etc.

Hmmm... how can the double -bass part be 'optional' when there is a clear indication by Mozart of 'pizzicato' in several places?
On this textual point alone all the advocates of a contrabassoon as the only bass instrument really do get 'egg on their faces'!
Having said that, I do remember that one of the most enjoyable performances of K361 that I ever took part in was with the LSO wind section in about 1970 conducted by the much-lamented Istvan Kertesz, in the Royal Festival Hall.
Mr K really was, on that occasion, the 'cat that got the cream', as the ensemble boasted not only a 'string bass' ( the estimable Stuart Knussen, father of Ollie) but a contra-bassoon as well!
K361 the Serenade for 14 instruments!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Gordon & Roehre - of course! Can't say the bow noises were particularly intrusive in this recording, though.

Purcellian - many thanks for that link; and welcome to the Forum!

[JFLL]

... the bow noises ...

If you want a curiosity with bow noises, try this quintet arrangement by a near-contemporary for oboe, piano and strings:

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Classico/CLASSCD355

(I'm not sure why Schwencke bothered, though, really ... )

[MickyD]

I like the Hogwood version, but I also have a similar vintage HIP recording of Paul Dombrecht's Octophorus group...I've searched for it on the web but it appears to have long vanished. A pity, it is good.

[Lion-of-Vienna]

... I also have a similar vintage HIP recording of Paul Dombrecht's Octophorus group...I've searched for it on the web but it appears to have long vanished. A pity, it is good.

There is a recording by Octophoros conducted by Barthold Kuijken. Is this the same group? It is available on Amazon (pricey) and also on Spotify and Naxos Music Library.

[Flosshilde]

"extraneous bow sounds"

Perhaps the performers' corsets were creaking when they acknowledged the audience at the end of the performance?

I do like the Gran Partita - it's about the only instrumental Mozart I can tolerate. Perhaps I'll look into some of the recommendations.