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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30283

    #46
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Bring it on!
    No idea on the etymological origins - more complicated than I thought.

    Bohême - a place, bohème - a way of life

    Funny, I don't find the opera at all 'sentimental maundering'. But perhaps <ah!> one just has to have lived the life in the Quartier Latin to truly appreciate it …
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Barbirollians
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11680

      #47
      I do not think it to be the slightest of " sentimental maundering " if conducted and sung well . It needs to be taken seriously rather than treated as the first musical .

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20570

        #48
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        I do not think it to be the slightest of " sentimental maundering " if conducted and sung well . It needs to be taken seriously rather than treated as the first musical .

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        • Conchis
          Banned
          • Jun 2014
          • 2396

          #49
          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          I do not think it to be the slightest of " sentimental maundering " if conducted and sung well . It needs to be taken seriously rather than treated as the first musical .
          No, that would be Carmen.

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          • verismissimo
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 2957

            #50
            Originally posted by Conchis View Post
            No, that would be Carmen.
            No, that would be Le Postillon de Longjumeau...

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            • Don Basilio
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 320

              #51
              It's not good being negative about something others love, so I would have been better off shutting up. But it does leave me cold. Sorry.

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              • Conchis
                Banned
                • Jun 2014
                • 2396

                #52
                Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post
                It's not good being negative about something others love, so I would have been better off shutting up. But it does leave me cold. Sorry.
                Were you, by any chance, told how wonderful it was before you actually saw/heard it? That never helps, in my experience.

                I suppose it's a bit daring that it's implied Mimi and Rodolfo go to bed together after their first meeting.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30283

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post
                  It's not good being negative about something others love, so I would have been better off shutting up. But it does leave me cold. Sorry.
                  Nobody agrees with anyone else here, Don B, about anything (much) Where would we be without disagreements?

                  I'd have to say that for me, the Puccini 'sentimental maundering' is more apparent in Mme Butterfly, with the introduction of That Child. But that's another topic.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • gradus
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5607

                    #54
                    'Sentimental maundering'!! - I'll take the bait. You're right about at least one of our number disagreeing with you. Difficult to see how the story would work without 'That Child'.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      #55
                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      Nobody agrees with anyone else here, Don B, about anything (much)
                      I agree with you about that.

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11680

                        #56
                        The death of Mirella Freni prompted me to buy both the full set of her recording with HVK and with Schippers on Warner .The former gloriously indulgent - the latter wonderfully dramatic and Gedda’s singing is marvellously heartfelt . What endless pleasure this opera can provide.

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                        • vibratoforever
                          Full Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 149

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                          The death of Mirella Freni prompted me to buy both the full set of her recording with HVK and with Schippers on Warner .The former gloriously indulgent - the latter wonderfully dramatic and Gedda’s singing is marvellously heartfelt . What endless pleasure this opera can provide.
                          Have been listening a lot lately to the HVK set which has such glorious singing, not just from Freni and Pavarotti, but Rolando Panerai, also to be heard on Barbirolli's Butterfly. Panerai passed away a few months ago at the age of 95 and this video was done a year ago

                          R.I.P to the Immense ROLANDO PANERAI (1924-2019), WHO even at the beggening of the year at the age of 95 gave Masterclasses and sang some of the opening phra...

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11680

                            #58
                            Gosh -Freni is marvellous in Act 3 of the EMI Schippers .

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                            • greenilex
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1626

                              #59
                              A thrill to hear Panerai at any age. Thanks. In a sense he does play his citarra for ever, as long as we can listen.

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                              • gradus
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5607

                                #60
                                Originally posted by vibratoforever View Post
                                Have been listening a lot lately to the HVK set which has such glorious singing, not just from Freni and Pavarotti, but Rolando Panerai, also to be heard on Barbirolli's Butterfly. Panerai passed away a few months ago at the age of 95 and this video was done a year ago

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSSOMPu8QMA
                                I agree about the splendour of the HvK set which put in an appearance on Anne Mackaneny's selection of music last Sat afternoon, in particular the superb singing of Musetta's waltz with Elizabeth Harewood and Panerai in splendid voice. Oddly though the recording sounded much less full-bodied than the LPs. Digital remastering?

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