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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by LHC View Post
    DG released a new recording of the 8th with Dudamel last year, but only available for streaming or download. It was very well reviewed by Gramophone.
    How bizarre not to release that on CD unless they think his market is all downloaders ?

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    • LHC
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      • Jan 2011
      • 1557

      #17
      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      How bizarre not to release that on CD unless they think his market is all downloaders ?
      DG do seem to be pushing downloads and streaming as their main activity at the moment. Perhaps they see him as appealing to a younger, hipper audience. His recording of Adams’ Must the Devil Have All the Good Tunes? with Yuja Wang was also not released at all on CD. Initially streaming and download only, and then a few months later, it was released on vinyl, but nothing else.
      "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
      Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        The Dude’s profile seems to be a bit lower these days.

        Did you ever acquire the Seventh, Pet??

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
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          #19
          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          The Dude’s profile seems to be a bit lower these days.
          He’s certainly not the first conductor to come to mind as a Mahlerian - his No2 at the Proms a few years back I really enjoyed but I’m not sure it was universally praised.

          Or is Mahler’s profile a bit lower these days - there are maybe less performances, less new recordings of his works - is the Mahler market saturated - everything been said for now - maybe things will change rapidly sometime but not now!

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            He’s certainly not the first conductor to come to mind as a Mahlerian - his No2 at the Proms a few years back I really enjoyed but I’m not sure it was universally praised.

            Or is Mahler’s profile a bit lower these days - there are maybe less performances, less new recordings of his works - is the Mahler market saturated - everything been said for now - maybe things will change rapidly sometime but not now!
            That’s a fair point . Jurowski has been knocking out the odd live recording and there were the Fischers but no obvious big new cycles of his symphonies being announced.
            Last edited by Barbirollians; 15-01-22, 00:49.

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            • jayne lee wilson
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              • Jul 2011
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              #21

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              • silvestrione
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                • Jan 2011
                • 1707

                #22
                And Igor Levitt playing the adagio from Mahler 10 in Ronald Stevenson's transcription....now that I would like to hear.

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Alison View Post
                  The Dude’s profile seems to be a bit lower these days.

                  Did you ever acquire the Seventh, Pet??
                  I enjoyed the Seventh rather more than the Fifth. Nachtmusik movements were particularly fine.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26536

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Alison View Post
                    The Dude’s profile seems to be a bit lower these days.

                    Indeed, over here. Not in LA though, where he seems to have sunk his roots lately. His musical direction of the recent Spielberg West Side Story has boosted his profile, if anything
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Petrushka
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12250

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Alison View Post

                      Did you ever acquire the Seventh, Pet??
                      Sorry, Alison, only just seen your query. I never did get this 7th and, in fact, I listen to very little Mahler these days. He'll be back, I'm sure, but the days when I used to listen to a couple of Mahler symphonies a day are long gone.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • Alison
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                        Sorry, Alison, only just seen your query. I never did get this 7th and, in fact, I listen to very little Mahler these days. He'll be back, I'm sure, but the days when I used to listen to a couple of Mahler symphonies a day are long gone.
                        I’m pretty much with you on this Pet. Wasn’t it FerretFancy who rather berated the Mahler boom on these pages?

                        Last Mahler CD purchased must have been the Hrusa Fourth (excellent). But I haven’t bothered with all the Adam Fischers and not even the Jurowski Eighth (or even the Dudamel Seventh). I’m quite looking forward to revisiting the Solti London recordings from the recent and so far very much enjoyed box. Other than that I’m giving him a rest.

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                        • Alison
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

                          Indeed, over here. Not in LA though, where he seems to have sunk his roots lately. His musical direction of the recent Spielberg West Side Story has boosted his profile, if anything
                          Thanks for the insight Nicks. So has the Venezuela era come to an end?

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            I’m pretty much with you on this Pet. Wasn’t it FerretFancy who rather berated the Mahler boom on these pages?

                            Last Mahler CD purchased must have been the Hrusa Fourth (excellent). But I haven’t bothered with all the Adam Fischers and not even the Jurowski Eighth (or even the Dudamel Seventh). I’m quite looking forward to revisiting the Solti London recordings from the recent and so far very much enjoyed box. Other than that I’m giving him a rest.
                            I miss Ferretfancy.

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                            • Petrushka
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Alison View Post
                              But I haven’t bothered with all the Adam Fischers and not even the Jurowski Eighth (or even the Dudamel Seventh). I’m quite looking forward to revisiting the Solti London recordings from the recent and so far very much enjoyed box. Other than that I’m giving him a rest.
                              Ditto to all of this. I've been playing the Solti box this past week but left the Mahler discs as I'd got them already in previous CD incarnations.

                              I've had a bit of an obsession with Mozart lately and have finally got going on chamber music, especially the Schubert Octet D803 which I can't stop playing. Wonder if it's age or the pandemic effect?
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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