BaL 9.04.11 - Beethoven: Violin Concerto

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  • pilamenon
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    • Nov 2010
    • 454

    #16
    Kopatchinskja, Orchestra des Champs-Elysees, Herreweghe
    Given the reviewer is Roy Goodman, I hope he might consider this recent period recording which is another to include the 'timpani' cadenza mentioned above transcribed from piano for the soloist. I've only heard it once, but found it an absolutely winning performance.

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    • amateur51

      #17
      Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
      Strangely neither of his studio performances is listed - Toscanini and Munch.

      Mike
      I bought the Heifetz/Munch on LP 30 years ago in a charity shop in Blackheath & enjoyed it hugely

      I was pleased to see a strong recommendation from Roehre for the Krebbers/Haitink version earlier on this thread

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      • PJPJ
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        • Nov 2010
        • 1461

        #18
        Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
        Of the several recordings I appear to have, for sheer pleasure I reach most often for Campoli with RPO/Pritchard.

        Not available I guess.
        It is available as a high resolution download (or various discs) sourced from an EMI commercial reel-to-reel tape from HDTT.

        I bought it on the DVD - sounds like the cleanest LP played on excellent equipment - having previously suggested to EMI it be released for Campoli's centenary.

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26536

          #19
          Originally posted by pilamenon View Post
          Given the reviewer is Roy Goodman
          One of the reviewers... It's a two-hander BAL with AMcG...
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            #20
            If today's BAL is anything to go by, I suspect that non-HIPP versions will be sidelined yet again.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              #21
              Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
              Of the several recordings I appear to have, for sheer pleasure I reach most often for Campoli with RPO/Pritchard.

              Not available I guess.
              I haven't found this one, but if you can find evidence of its general availablility, I'll add it to the list.

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              • umslopogaas
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                • Nov 2010
                • 1977

                #22
                Post 1, Eine Alpensinfonie

                I've got quite a few LP versions that arent on your list, though of course, it may be that they never made it to CD, or are unavailable:

                Francescatti/Walter/Columbia SO
                stereo CBS (UK) SBRG 72006 (USA Columbia MS 6263)

                Francescatti/Ormandy/ Columbia SO
                mono Columbia 33CX 1011

                Ferras/Karajan/BPO
                stereo DG SLPM 139 021

                Schneiderhan/Jochum/BPO
                stereo DG SLPM 138 999

                Schneiderhan/van Kempen/BPO
                mono DG LPM 18099


                Suk/Boult/New Philharmonia
                stereo HMV ASD 2667

                David Oistrakh/Gauk/USSR State O.
                stereo Vox STPL 516.160

                Menuhin/Silvestri/VPO
                stereo HMV ASD 377

                Igor Oistrakh/Schuchter/Pro Arte O.
                mono Columbia 33CX 1514

                Since I've also got quite a few of the ones that are on your list I think I might give this BAL a miss, I've really got enough versions of Beetoven's violin concerto!

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  #23
                  Thanks for the additions, umslopogaas. I've added the Suk and David Oistrakh to the list. Some of your collection are already on the list, but others are either deleted or never made it to CD.

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                  • Alf-Prufrock

                    #24
                    A modest request

                    I am somewhat embarrassed to find that I have seventeen performances of the concerto in my collection (all CDs as I got rid of LPs for space reasons (!!) many years ago.) But I have managed not to have an Oistrakh version, though over the years I have heard several of them. My memory of them is too vague to recall orchestras, companies, etc.

                    Which Oistrakh version would members advise? I should prefer stereo, though good mono is not discounted. (Please, no dreadful Russian engineering of the old style such as is beloved of Rob Cowan.)

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      #25
                      The French National Radio Orchestra with Cluytens on EMI is worth a listen.

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                      • visualnickmos
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #26
                        Hello Alf-Prufrock (msg 24)
                        Nothing embarrassing about 17 performances of this! In fact a great achievement - something to cherish, I'd say.... I think I have 2 or 3 Oistrakhs - and Kogan with Silvestri (EMI) is a sure-fire all guns blazing tour de force... but I have I have Szeryng, Krebbers, Schneiderhahn, etc - also a version from Berlin in 1943, I think with Furtwangler, which is quite brilliant, but sadly the thoughts of what was going on a few kilometres to the east, and also who may have been attending the concert, somewhat overshadow my enjoyment, to say the least.

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                        • Petrushka
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                          Hello Alf-Prufrock (msg 24)
                          Nothing embarrassing about 17 performances of this! In fact a great achievement - something to cherish, I'd say.... I think I have 2 or 3 Oistrakhs - and Kogan with Silvestri (EMI) is a sure-fire all guns blazing tour de force... but I have I have Szeryng, Krebbers, Schneiderhahn, etc - also a version from Berlin in 1943, I think with Furtwangler, which is quite brilliant, but sadly the thoughts of what was going on a few kilometres to the east, and also who may have been attending the concert, somewhat overshadow my enjoyment, to say the least.
                          The Furtwangler is on Alpen's list at message 1. The violin soloist is Erich Rohn and the concert took place on January 12 1944 and was, in fact, part of the final concert that took place in the Alte Philharmonie before its destruction on the night of January 29/30 1944. Agree entirely about the quality of the performance the praises of which I sang on the old BBC boards a while back.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • pastoralguy
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            May I mention Accardo with Guilini on Sony? A good if not perhaps great recording.

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                            • pastoralguy
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              There's also a Menuhin version that appeared about 5 years of him playing and directing the Menuhin Chamber Orchestra on EMI. It was never issued during his lifetime and was available a couple of years in the HMV sale for a pound!!

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                              • Petrushka
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                                May I mention Accardo with Guilini on Sony? A good if not perhaps great recording.
                                PG: Do I recall you once mentioning that you had 49 versions of the Beethoven VC? Your opinion of one for the library would carry some weight, I think.
                                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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