BaL 9.04.11 - Beethoven: Violin Concerto

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

Schneiderhan Jochum Berlin PO 1961 is one of my absolute favourite recordings .... it has something magical and compelling about it .... i have other versions and i listen to them with interest but this is just enthralling and has not faded in its magic for well over thirty years ...

[pastoralguy]

Oh help! Probably Perlman with Barenboim and the Berlin Philharmonic in their live EMI version. Pure magic from start to finish.

Can I have The Supraphone Live Ida Haendel as a runner up!?

[Barbirollians]

I agree that the Perlman/Barenboim is also very fine but there is something about Barenboim's accompaniment of the piece that draws attention to itself in the way Giulini does not . It is also notable in the Zukerman/Barenboim DG version .

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Well, if offered the chance to win a really good HiFi system if I took part, I'd probably name Menuhin/Furtwangler as my "restriction".

Otherwise, it's such a multi-faceted work that, rather than have a single recording, I'd prefer to restrict myself to my tatty old Philharmonia pocket score (which has my markings of Beethoven's adjustments and rethinkings taken from Stowell's Cambridge Handbook written in) and just imagine how I think it might be performed.

[Hornspieler]

Oistrakh

Yes. Oistrakh every time for me. David or Igor. They were both magnificent in this work.

Awesome renditions!

HS

[verismissimo]

The one I reach for most often is Alfredo Campoli / RPO / Pritchard from 1962.

[Barbirollians]

Well, if offered the chance to win a really good HiFi system if I took part, I'd probably name Menuhin/Furtwangler as my "restriction".

Otherwise, it's such a multi-faceted work that, rather than have a single recording, I'd prefer to restrict myself to my tatty old Philharmonia pocket score (which has my markings of Beethoven's adjustments and rethinkings taken from Stowell's Cambridge Handbook written in) and just imagine how I think it might be performed.

Which Menuhin/Furtwangler account ? The 1947 Lucerne or the studio recording ? I think there might also be a live RIAS Berlin performance out there too .

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Which Menuhin/Furtwangler account ? The 1947 Lucerne or the studio recording ? I think there might also be a live RIAS Berlin performance out there too .

Oh, good point. I was thinking of the studio recording - but the Lucerne would certainly "do". I don't know of the RIAS recording, but Furtawangler's 1944 performance with Erich Röhm is astonishingly good, too. But then, so are so many - I plumped for Menuhin/Furtwangler because ... well, because: and I wanted to win the HiFi! But there are so many fine recordings that are so different from this .... No: I'll stick with the Score.

[remdataram]

Schneiderhan Jochum Berlin PO 1961 is one of my absolute favourite recordings .... it has something magical and compelling about it .... i have other versions and i listen to them with interest but this is just enthralling and has not faded in its magic for well over thirty years ...

I agree, I love the cadenza, too.

[salymap]

Menuhin or Ginette Nevue.

[Zucchini]

Over 100 replies on this topic here...

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?1741-BaL-9-04-11-Beethoven-Violin-Concerto&highlight=beethoven+violin

...and not all the preferences are for ancient recordings by dead people

[Parry1912]

I agree, I love the cadenza, too.

That is a big plus!

However, being a big Perlman fan I'd probably go for one of his. But which ... ?

Incidentally, all the recordings I have feature either the Kreisler cadenza or one based on Beethoven's cadenza for the piano version. Any recommendations for a good recording with the Joachim cadenza?

[slarty]

Kreisler with Barbirolli or Schneiderhan with Furtwängler.

[BBMmk2]

I with Calum and Remdarteram, Schneiderhan, BPO Jocum(1961) the best one!

[Barbirollians]

I have never warmed to recordings with that cadenza. Beethoven wrote it for the piano version - all that timpani seems very out of place with the violin . I am a big fan of the classic Kreisler cadenza !