"Perhaps the greatest conductor of the 20th century"

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  • kea
    Full Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 749

    #61
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    Didn't he conduct quite a lot of Levi Strauss?
    Hmm, I'm always making that typo in my head, but I think this is the first time it's slipped into print.

    [insert photoshop of WF in cowboy hat rustling up a herd of cattle]

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    • Don Petter

      #62
      Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
      I remember them as excellent, as was his mono recording of Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra.
      You've struck a chord there! The Karajan Bartok was one of my first LPs, bought at the instigation of my brother. I was just getting interested in classical music, and wanted to explore 'something modern'. He, being ten years older than me and having a much wider classical knowledge, was asked to accompany me to the record shop. Two records were bought, the other being Stravinsky conducting the Rite and the 1945 Firebird Suite (Philips A 01307 L).

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      • tigajen

        #63
        Beecham?

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #64
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          My seconds will see your seconds, sir (and will order a couple of Black Sheep ales for us).

          "Infinitely"??!! Bah - humbug, I say - HUMBUG!!!
          Your on!! I'll have a look!! :)
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • amateur51

            #65
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            HUMBUG!!!
            I'm quIte partial to the occasional sweetmeat of that ilk

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            • verismissimo
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 2957

              #66
              Mravinsky?

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #67
                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                Mravinsky?
                Another "excellent at what he did" candidate, but, from his recorded legacy at least, the repertoire is too limited to deserve the accolade, IMO. (Bach, Haydn, Mendelssohn, Verdi, Berlioz, the Second Viennese School ... all seem to be absent from his catalogue, and very little Beethoven, Brahms, Bruckner, Sibelius, Debussy, Bartok or Stravinsky ... or Mussorgsky and Prokofiev, perhaps most surprising.)
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • visualnickmos
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3610

                  #68
                  Didn't Bela Bartok say

                  "Competitions are for horses, not artists"

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #69
                    Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                    Didn't Bela Bartok say

                    "Competitions are for horses, not artists"
                    If he did, then he's gone even further up in my estimation.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • visualnickmos
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3610

                      #70
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      If he did, then he's gone even further up in my estimation.
                      Quite!

                      Ferney

                      I'm pretty sure about this; I came across numerous references to it.

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                      • gradus
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5609

                        #71
                        Not especially given to modesty, Beecham himself may well have agreed with his own nomination and although I never saw him conduct, on the strength of his many superb recordings, and the views of those who attended his concerts and his musicians, he was amongst the greats.

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                        • Don Petter

                          #72
                          Originally posted by gradus View Post
                          Not especially given to modesty, Beecham himself may well have agreed with his own nomination and although I never saw him conduct, on the strength of his many superb recordings, and the views of those who attended his concerts and his musicians, he was amongst the greats.
                          I did, just. My first Beecham concert turned out to be his last. (Portsmouth Guildhall, 7th May 1960.)

                          I'd happily give him my vote.

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