Walton: Symphony No. 1 / Violin Concerto (Edward Gardner / Chandos)

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  • Bryn
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    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #76
    Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post

    The Szell version is wonderful,coupled with the neglected Hindemith Variations. We should hear those more often
    Agreed, a classic recording. I seem to recall their Partita being excellent, too.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #77
      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
      Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, as the Queen Mother was wont to say, Bbm
      Wotchyoo talkin' about, ami?
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26524

        #78
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        Wotchyoo talkin' about, ami?
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • amateur51

          #79
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Wotchyoo talkin' about, ami?
          I'm trying to talk Bbm down from a potentially major strop about differing viewpoints about Tezza & Eddy's Walton disc, innit

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          • antongould
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            • Nov 2010
            • 8780

            #80
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            My favourite recording of the first two (of the three) movements is Mackerras':


            ... and at £1.27 including P&P for a "very good" second-hand copy, it's a real bargain (superb First Symphony, too).

            Szell is splendid, too:


            Less succesful at presenting the glow of the Music in the first two Movements, but (IMO) better at integrating the Finale into the whole scheme of things is Brabbins on a BBCMusMag (I don't know his Hyperion version) - but I'm happier being discontented with the last Movement in exchange for Mackerras' superb performance of the first two movements. This really does make clear that there is some of Walton's very best Music in this work - and my "second-best" (as children in Spennymoor used to say) recording of the First, too.
            Many cheers ferney - after raiding the grandchildren's money boxes I have got the £1.27 and done the deed.....

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            • antongould
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              • Nov 2010
              • 8780

              #81
              Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
              My favourite recording of Nº 2 is the one that I was playing in - but to return to Nº 1:

              For me, it defines the true William Walton and not the one written at the behest of his publishers and bank manager.

              HS
              Dare one ask which one you played on HS?

              Double dare one ask does playing something one doesn't "rate" impacts your high level of performance....

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
                • 11671

                #82
                Originally posted by antongould View Post
                Many cheers ferney - after raiding the grandchildren's money boxes I have got the £1.27 and done the deed.....
                Well done anyway who paid a fiver for that Szell set it looks like you get Francescatti and Ormandy's sizzling version of the Violin Concerto thrown in too .

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                • akiralx
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                  • Oct 2011
                  • 427

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                  Ida Haendel she ain't - and I don't think she ever will be.
                  I'm sure Tasmin Little will be relieved to hear you say that... On this CD the concerto is better than the symphony, in fact I find Ms Little's performance one of the finest ever, alongside Kyung Wa Chung's.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #84
                    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                    I'm trying to talk Bbm down from a potentially major strop about differing viewpoints about Tezza & Eddy's Walton disc, innit
                    Ah I wasn't in a strop though haha!!

                    Just merely an opinion :)
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • amateur51

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                      Ah I wasn't in a strop though haha!!

                      Just merely an opinion :)
                      Good to hear, Bbm



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                      • Hornspieler
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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1847

                        #86
                        Originally posted by antongould View Post
                        Dare one ask which one you played on HS?

                        Double dare one ask does playing something one doesn't "rate" impacts your high level of performance....
                        I have a recording taken off air conducted by Charles Groves. It is not, as far as I am aware, available as a CD.

                        I did not say that Walton Nº 2 "does not rate" - it is a fine piece of writing, but it does not have the autobiographical impact of Nº 1.
                        Regarding the violin concerto, I am told that Nigel Kennedy gave a good account of that with the Bournemouth players (I was not taking part, AMS, so don't bother to comment)

                        So I wonder if there is a recording of Joshua Bell, a player who I much admire, performing the work. I imagine that he is of a similar temperament to Nige and the concerto might suit him.
                        Last edited by Hornspieler; 03-07-14, 10:55.

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                        • Ferretfancy
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3487

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                          I have a recording taken off air conducted by Charles Groves. It is not, as far as I am aware, available as a CD.

                          I did not say that Walton Nº 2 "does not rate" - it is a fine peice of writing, but it does not have the autobiographical impact of Nº 1.
                          Regarding the violin concerto, I am told that Nigel Kennedy gave a good account of that with the Bournemouth players (I was not taking part, AMS, so don't bother to comment)

                          So I wonder if there is a recording of Joshua Bell, a player who I much admire, performing the work. I imagine that he is of a similar temperament to Nige and the concerto might suit him.
                          Joshua Bell's version is splendid, with the Baltimore SO and Zinman. In its original pairing it was with a lovely performance of the Barber concerto, I'm not sure if it's still available. It has also been issued in the Decca Sound bumper box.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26524

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                            I wonder if there is a recording of Joshua Bell, a player who I much admire, performing the work.
                            Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                            Joshua Bell's version is splendid, with the Baltimore SO and Zinman. In its original pairing it was with a lovely performance of the Barber concerto
                            I wholeheartedly second Ferret's comments, this is one of my favourite violin concerto discs (and my favourite version of all of the Barber) - and I see it has been re-released (and remastered! sounded pretty great to me in its initial mastering) in the Universal 'Originals' series

                            http://www.amazon.co.uk/Barber-Walto...+Shem+%7E+Bell
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #89
                              Cali, this means another cd to buy!!
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • Barbirollians
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11671

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                                Cali, this means another cd to buy!!
                                The Bell is very well played but a bit safe IMO .

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