Walton: Symphony No. 1 / Violin Concerto (Edward Gardner / Chandos)

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  • Radio64
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    • Jan 2014
    • 962

    #46
    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    Good idea!
    Which is why I stopped getting notifications? ...

    Never mind ...

    Might give this one a run for its money judging by your right honourable opinions thereof.
    "Gone Chopin, Bach in a minuet."

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26572

      #47
      Originally posted by Radio64 View Post
      Which is why I stopped getting notifications? ...
      Don't think so - you're the only post since it was merged a few moments ago!
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • Radio64
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        • Jan 2014
        • 962

        #48
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        Don't think so - you're the only post since it was merged a few moments ago!
        Yeah but you were all posting in t'other one to which I am not subscibed .. or something.
        Anyway, on with the show...
        "Gone Chopin, Bach in a minuet."

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11752

          #49
          I was inspired to dig out the EMI double Forte set . Not going particularly cheaply on Amazon but well worth getting

          Symphony No1 in Haitink's really interesting and different account NO2 in Previn's excellent 1974 recording which has some of the snap of his legendary recording of No1 .

          Tortelier in the Cello Concerto - an intensely lyrical very beautiful reading and the sensational unmatched Ida Haendel recording of the Violin Concerto .

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 11062

            #50
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            I was inspired to dig out the EMI double Forte set . Not going particularly cheaply on Amazon but well worth getting

            Symphony No1 in Haitink's really interesting and different account NO2 in Previn's excellent 1974 recording which has some of the snap of his legendary recording of No1 .

            Tortelier in the Cello Concerto - an intensely lyrical very beautiful reading and the sensational unmatched Ida Haendel recording of the Violin Concerto .
            With Previn's Portsmouth Point and Scapino thrown in for good measure!

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26572

              #51
              On relistening to the Gardner performance of the Symphony (1st, 2nd & 4th mvts), I found the taut rhythmic approach rather too motoric, mechanical - closer to the scherzo of DSCH 10 than the more emotional mix of nervy anxiety and exhilaration I hear in this piece. Maybe it was my mood. But having heard other performances which aren't taut enough, it made me realise that tight precision may not be everything in this music...
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11752

                #52
                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                With Previn's Portsmouth Point and Scapino thrown in for good measure!
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                On relistening to the Gardner performance of the Symphony (1st, 2nd & 4th mvts), I found the taut rhythmic approach rather too motoric, mechanical - closer to the scherzo of DSCH 10 than the more emotional mix of nervy anxiety and exhilaration I hear in this piece. Maybe it was my mood. But having heard other performances which aren't taut enough, it made me realise that tight precision may not be everything in this music...
                Yes indeed jolly good they are too Pulcinella

                Cali- do you have the Haitink ? Not taut in that context but speaks a good deal to me. Is Gardner trying to out previn Previn ?

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26572

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  Cali- do you have the Haitink ? Not taut in that context but speaks a good deal to me.
                  Yes I've had the Haitink since it came out (i.e. on various successive media) - it speaks a good deal to me, too: lacking the fleetness but making up for it in a sort of titanic, gritty (dare one say it? Brucknerian) way... and TERRIFIC playing and recording
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #54
                    I will have to listen to this recording again I have heard it three times now! :)

                    Previn just by a whisker(His LSO version ofcourse).
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • antongould
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8832

                      #55
                      I'll get told off by Rumpole of course for not reading the title.....but what is the recommended CD of Walton 2 which I have been listening to a lot on holiday......

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26572

                        #56
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Alison
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6468

                          #57
                          The Haitink version is more involving than the Gardner which somehow doesn't deliver as much as expected.

                          Nor can the BBCSO muster the same depth of tone and clarity of the early eighties Philharmonia.

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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11752

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            The Haitink version is more involving than the Gardner which somehow doesn't deliver as much as expected.

                            Nor can the BBCSO muster the same depth of tone and clarity of the early eighties Philharmonia.
                            Thanks Alison that's enough for me to know I do not need to add this disc .

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                            • Petrushka
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12309

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Alison View Post
                              The Haitink version is more involving than the Gardner which somehow doesn't deliver as much as expected.

                              Nor can the BBCSO muster the same depth of tone and clarity of the early eighties Philharmonia.
                              I had the Haitink on LP but just realised that I've never bought the CD. Just ordered the Double Forte disc used for £6.97 + £1.26 p+p. Only one left in stock and I've got it!
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                              • Alison
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6468

                                #60
                                Well done Pet, it's a great little package of works and performances as others have said.

                                Let us know when you've listened to the Symphony. I liked Cali's description of the performance and as a dyed in the wool Brucknerian you'll surely find much to enjoy!

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