Josef Suk Concerto Recordings

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  • HighlandDougie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3115

    #16
    Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
    The cadenzas are unusual, if I recall.
    Written by Váša Příhoda, who wrote cadenzas for all the concertos which he played. In his day (he was born in 1900 and died in 1960), he was a well-known soloist and teacher.

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
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      #17
      Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
      Written by Váša Příhoda, who wrote cadenzas for all the concertos which he played. In his day (he was born in 1900 and died in 1960), he was a well-known soloist and teacher.
      Wasn't there a cloud hanging over Prihoda about his wife who died in a concentration camp ?

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      • HighlandDougie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3115

        #18
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        Wasn't there a cloud hanging over Prihoda about his wife who died in a concentration camp ?
        This is what appears in Wikipedia (although it may need to be taken with a pinch of salt):

        "He married the violinist Alma Rosé in 1930, but they divorced in March 1935 in Czechoslovakia. The circumstances of this have been controversial; it has been claimed that he divorced her for opportunistic reasons, she being Jewish in an increasingly anti-semitic environment, and to remain with her would have been detrimental to his career. But this theory is belied by the fact that his second wife was also Jewish".

        Alma Rosé was arrested by the Gestapo in 1942 while trying to escape from France to Switzerland and ended up in Drancy. She was, alas, deported to Auschwitz in 1943 where she died in 1944, either from typhus or some form of food poisoning.

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        • richardfinegold
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          • Sep 2012
          • 7788

          #19
          Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
          This is what appears in Wikipedia (although it may need to be taken with a pinch of salt):

          "He married the violinist Alma Rosé in 1930, but they divorced in March 1935 in Czechoslovakia. The circumstances of this have been controversial; it has been claimed that he divorced her for opportunistic reasons, she being Jewish in an increasingly anti-semitic environment, and to remain with her would have been detrimental to his career. But this theory is belied by the fact that his second wife was also Jewish".

          Alma Rosé was arrested by the Gestapo in 1942 while trying to escape from France to Switzerland and ended up in Drancy. She was, alas, deported to Auschwitz in 1943 where she died in 1944, either from typhus or some form of food poisoning.
          Was she any relation to the former Concertmaster of the VPO who had the same last name?

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11822

            #20
            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
            Was she any relation to the former Concertmaster of the VPO who had the same last name?
            Daughter of Arnold Rose and Justine Mahler Gustav's sister .

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            • LeMartinPecheur
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              • Apr 2007
              • 4717

              #21
              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
              I have owned his recordings of the Dvorak and the Suk Fantasy (his great-gandfather and grandfather respectively, of course) since I was at university, and it's hard to imagine them better played. I love the Fantasy very much, by the way, and am disappointed that it doesn't appear in public more often.
              Pabs: I'm afraid you're wrong. I distinctly heard Sean Rafferty telling us the other day that Suk was Dvorak's father-in-law!
              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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              • LeMartinPecheur
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                • Apr 2007
                • 4717

                #22
                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                The coupling I had was on MFP and it was the Dvorak VC with the Romance Op11 and the two works I always want to hear together - Stern, Chung, Perlman and Frank have coupled them also.
                I bought that MFP as a student. Later and very foolishly, I got rid of it after purchasing Accardo/CO/Davis on a similarly-coupled Philips LP. An early lesson that newer ain't necessarily better (no disrespect to the Philips)!

                So, quite recently, I snapped up a nice clean s/h copy of the old MFP...
                I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                  I bought that MFP as a student. Later and very foolishly, I got rid of it after purchasing Accardo/CO/Davis on a similarly-coupled Philips LP. An early lesson that newer ain't necessarily better (no disrespect to the Philips)!

                  So, quite recently, I snapped up a nice clean s/h copy of the old MFP...

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                  • visualnickmos
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3616

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                    There is definitely a complete set of the Mozart concertos that were on RCA with the Prague Chamber Orchestra
                    The Mozart VCs are (were) also on two separate RCA 'Classical Navigator' CDs at a bargain price. Worth searching out, definitely.





                    or if you want them all in the same box; you get nos. 6 & 7 included here; the above two CDS give you 1 to 5 plus a few little fillers.....

                    Last edited by visualnickmos; 01-05-14, 21:20.

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                    • Pabmusic
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                      • May 2011
                      • 5537

                      #25
                      Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                      Pabs: I'm afraid you're wrong. I distinctly heard Sean Rafferty telling us the other day that Suk was Dvorak's father-in-law!
                      Well, that must be true then. Perhaps he meant that the violinist was Dvorak's father-in-law.

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                      • mikealdren
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1216

                        #26
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        Pabs: I'm afraid you're wrong. I distinctly heard Sean Rafferty telling us the other day that Suk was Dvorak's father-in-law!
                        I'm afraid that Sean was wrong, Josef Suk senior (1874-1933) married Dvorak's (1841-1904) daughter.

                        Mike

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                        • Pabmusic
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                          • May 2011
                          • 5537

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
                          I'm afraid that Sean was wrong, Josef Suk senior (1874-1933) married Dvorak's (1841-1904) daughter.

                          Mike
                          Sorry - my irony was too delicate

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                          • mikealdren
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1216

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                            Sorry - my irony was too delicate
                            Your response was fine, I should have read it more carefully before responding to LMP!

                            Regarding the Suk with a dance band, it really isn't very nice, even the violin sound is rather processed (was he miked up?). Avoid or treat as a curiosity.

                            Mike

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                            • LeMartinPecheur
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4717

                              #29
                              Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
                              Your response was fine, I should have read it more carefully before responding to LMP!
                              After knowing me for some 40 years my wife can now pretty reliably spot when I'm keeping a straight face and telling a tall one: she says my lower lip trembles slightly.

                              Forum members should therefore watch out for this...
                              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                              • richardfinegold
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                                • Sep 2012
                                • 7788

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
                                Your response was fine, I should have read it more carefully before responding to LMP!

                                Regarding the Suk with a dance band, it really isn't very nice, even the violin sound is rather processed (was he miked up?). Avoid or treat as a curiosity.

                                Mike
                                So Mike, are we correct in surmising that in your opinion, that album really Suks...

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