Manuel De Falla - world's unluckiest recorded composer?

[LeMartinPecheur]

Would "a programme concerto" be objectionable? As in "a programme symphony"?

But loike I sed above, any proper concerto gotta have a proper slow movement

[soileduk]

this is my ordered Master Peter (etc) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Falla-Brujo-...ref=sr_1_3?s=m

I think (hope) you'll like this. I'm playing it now actually and it's very well recorded with a real Flamenco flavour.

[LeMartinPecheur]

this is my ordered Master Peter (etc) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Falla-Brujo-...ref=sr_1_3?s=m

I think (hope) you'll like this. I'm playing it now actually and it's very well recorded with a real Flamenco flavour.

Thanks soileduk, my anticipation grows! Does it have texts and translations please please?

[soileduk]

Thanks soileduk, my anticipation grows! Does it have texts and translations please please?

Yes. This should be a nice digipack type sleeve.

[Don Petter]

Yes. This should be a nice digipack type sleeve.

Nothing nice about digipacks. Once a 'finger' breaks, they are irreparable.

[richardfinegold]

Possibly not rfg, he left for Argentina in 1939 in response to an invitation from the Institución Cultural Española de Buenos Aires and stayed there, but it appears he would have been welcomed back at any time. His body was conveyed back to Spain on a Spanish warship. But he was deeply traumatised by the events he witnessed in Granada - at the start of the war he (in the words of Lorca's biographer Ian Gibson) "shut himself up in his carmen [house with walled garden] below the Alhambra. There he learnt of the killings that were taking place in the town; indeed he could hardly fail to hear the sinister firing from the nearby cemetery in the early hours of every morning." He tried to find Lorca to rescue him when he heard he had been arrested, but it was too late.

I know that Falla was still championed in his home country under Franco, but I am wondering if his Politics mitigated against the kind of promotion that Chopin
has received through the years from various Polish Governments. The latter has been the receipient of a sustained effort to promote his music as Poland is justifiably proud of having spawned one ofthe greatest Composers of all time.
The irony is that Chopin's music doesn't need the advocacy of the proud Poles, but Falla probably could have benefited from a stronger championing effort from his country.

[Serial_Apologist]

I know that Falla was still championed in his home country under Franco, but I am wondering if his Politics mitigated against the kind of promotion that Chopin
has received through the years from various Polish Governments. The latter has been the receipient of a sustained effort to promote his music as Poland is justifiably proud of having spawned one ofthe greatest Composers of all time.
The irony is that Chopin's music doesn't need the advocacy of the proud Poles, but Falla probably could have benefited from a stronger championing effort from his country.

One of Falla's problems might have been his tacit support for the republican side in the civil war, given the hammering meted out on Roman Catholicism by many of his side, notwithstanding his own deep Catholic faith.

[Richard Tarleton]

I know that Falla was still championed in his home country under Franco, but I am wondering if his Politics mitigated against the kind of promotion that Chopin
has received through the years from various Polish Governments. The latter has been the receipient of a sustained effort to promote his music as Poland is justifiably proud of having spawned one ofthe greatest Composers of all time.
The irony is that Chopin's music doesn't need the advocacy of the proud Poles, but Falla probably could have benefited from a stronger championing effort from his country.

An interesting article about a ditto book, rfg - the suggestion that the composer and music that really fitted the bill for Franco's Spain was Rodrigo, and the Concierto de Aranjuez.....

[Serial_Apologist]

An interesting article about a ditto book, rfg - the suggestion that the composer and music that really fitted the bill for Franco's Spain was Rodrigo, and the Concierto de Aranjuez.....

[LeMartinPecheur]

Nothing nice about digipacks. Once a 'finger' breaks, they are irreparable.

DP: have you tried not walking on them?

[Roehre]

Nothing nice about digipacks. Once a 'finger' breaks, they are irreparable.

Digipacks are a nightmare indeed

[visualnickmos]

It strikes me that old Manuel was one of life's unfortunate poor sods.

He could have travelled a bit - might have helped....

[LeMartinPecheur]

It strikes me that old Manuel was one of life's unfortunate poor sods.

He could have travelled a bit - might have helped....

Not clear how to read you on this vn! Before he went to live in Argentina (far enough for you?), he did a fair bit of living and touring round Europe - living in Paris 1907-14 and touring to at least England, France, Belgium, Switzerland and Germany. And he tried various places to live in Spain itself: Cadiz, Madrid, Granada.

And as for unfortunate, in his compositions he made his own decisions, and if he really wanted big popular successes he plainly made some bad ones - see OP!

[visualnickmos]

Not clear how to read you on this vn! Before he went to live in Argentina (far enough for you?), he did a fair bit of living and touring round Europe - living in Paris 1907-14 and touring to at least England, France, Belgium, Switzerland and Germany. And he tried various places to live in Spain itself: Cadiz, Madrid, Granada.......

I think I was perhaps speaking in irony!
Of the very few examples I have of his work, (sadly there are, indeed too few) I find them enjoyable and even quite engaging, but I would say not in the class of Rodrigo for example. Maybe a man who just didn't realise his full potential.

[edashtav]

I think I was perhaps speaking in irony!
Of the very few examples I have of his work, (sadly there are, indeed too few) I find them enjoyable and even quite engaging, but I would say not in the class of Rodrigo for example. Maybe a man who just didn't realise his full potential.

I found your evaluation truly shocking, visualnickmos, for I'd always rated de Falla as a discriminating composer, capable of originality, whereas I'd rated Rodrigo as a fluent writer of unexceptional trifles.