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  • pastoralguy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7760

    Musicians' heavy breathing and sniffing...

    I'm listening to the new cd of the Brahms violin sonatas played by Leonidas Kovakos and Yuja Wang Decca. It's very interesting music making, (as one would expect from these two terrific artists), but the superb sound quality really catches the violinists heavy breathing and sniffing! The notes say the disc was recorded between Christmas and New Year 2013 so perhaps he had a cold.

    I suppose my question is that, with modern recording techniques, should these extraneous noises be edited out? Normally, it doesn't bother me but this is REALLY intrusive!
  • gurnemanz
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7389

    #2
    I only saw Claudio Arrau once - RFH in the 1970s, I think - and have a strong recollection even many years later of some vitruoso pianism but also quite noisy heavy breathing and sniffing.

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    • Roehre

      #3
      Pablo Casals recordings.......

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      • Petrushka
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12254

        #4
        They say you can hear Sir Colin Davis and Sir john Barbirolli singing along to the music but confess I've never noticed it.

        PG, if it really is that intrusive I'm surprised the recording was passed for issue. Perhaps it worked out cheaper to issue the disc rather than cancel the sessions and try again another time or, then again, perhaps no-one noticed...
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • Parry1912
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 963

          #5
          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
          They say you can hear Sir Colin Davis and Sir john Barbirolli singing along to the music but confess I've never noticed it.
          You've not listened to Sir Colin on headphones, then.
          Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”

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          • Petrushka
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12254

            #6
            Originally posted by Parry1912 View Post
            You've not listened to Sir Colin on headphones, then.
            No, never listen to anything on headphones, don't like them. It's probably just as well I don't have to worry about neighbours.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • pastoralguy
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7760

              #7
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              PG, if it really is that intrusive I'm surprised the recording was passed for issue. Perhaps it worked out cheaper to issue the disc rather than cancel the sessions and try again another time or, then again, perhaps no-one noticed...
              Mrs. PG was horrified by it. I initially played the disc on my Quad system but it's just as noticeable on my PURE bedside radio. Very strange.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37695

                #8
                The American jazz pianist Keith Jarrett's recordings are notorious for his orgasmic grunts and cries, especially in his unaccompanied solo performances, and particularly at moments of, to me, simulated "inspiration", though these thankfully are mostly blunted in his group work by others' contributions. It is very off-putting.

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                • MrGongGong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  The American jazz pianist Keith Jarrett's recordings are notorious for his orgasmic grunts and cries, especially in his unaccompanied solo performances, and particularly at moments of, to me, simulated "inspiration", though these thankfully are mostly blunted in his group work by others' contributions. It is very off-putting.
                  Jarrett without the grunt is like fruitcake without cheese
                  Last edited by MrGongGong; 01-04-14, 22:54. Reason: Jarrett without the double t is like....

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    Jarret without the grunt is like fruitcake without cheese
                    Or indeed fried bread without marmalade. That very fine pianist Jonathan Powell in not averse to singing along either. One comes to accept it as being as much of the performance as the incidental sound of the keys, dampers, pedals and creaks of the piano stool.

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                    • Barbirollians
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11697

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                      Mrs. PG was horrified by it. I initially played the disc on my Quad system but it's just as noticeable on my PURE bedside radio. Very strange.
                      No sniffing on the Suk/Katchen !

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                      • Honoured Guest

                        #12
                        ... and farting and belching ...

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Honoured Guest View Post
                          ... and farting and belching ...
                          Let's leave the brass section out of this.

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                          • Chris Watson
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                            • Jun 2011
                            • 151

                            #14
                            I record (once a year, thankfully) for a producer who edits out the sound of the singers' breaths because he doesn't like the sound. I won't type the word that describes what I think of him.

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                            • richardfinegold
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 7667

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              No sniffing on the Suk/Katchen !
                              Or Suk/ Panenka

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