Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow
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The Classic FM-isation of R3 is almost complete
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Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View PostSo programmes we mourn for (or value if they survive in their ravaged,remnant versions) such as Interpretations on Record, Discovering Music (later on The choir) were part or a rich schedule which was authoritative, educative and led to new areas of interest.
Goes without saying it was part of the declared purpose of the BBC and public service broadcasting, which those on these boards see as needing restoration so that it can maintain the purpose and continue to deliver what we received.Pacta sunt servanda !!!
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Penn Igor
Must admit, in recent years I can find very little to say in praise of R3. Downmarketing- especially of shows such as Breakfast and EC- in both content and presentational style seem to have set the bench-mark for the station.
However, there is a glimmer of hope...maybe. Breakfast, at the weekend, presented by Martin Handley, is certainly a cut above the weekday "product". Sure Mr. Handley could hardly be described as a wilting violet, but, compared with the C B-H and Pet Rock over the top style, I can live with him, if you see what I mean. And the improvement seems to have carried on into the content of the programme..
And then there is Suzy Klein who R3 already have on their books. I recently watched the three part series she did for BBC4, about the18th Century music scene. Excellent. Klein, not only knows her stuff but can communicte it without being patronising. Take note Breakfast.
So, R3, how about moving the likes of Klein and Handley onto weekday Breakfast, and give them a free hand, and see what happens. I am sure there is another slot they can find for Pet Rock and C B-H. The former would surely be ideal for "Strictly". The latter...Antigues Roadshow maybe.
And then there is Essential Classics....Alas I feel this is a lost cause, beyond hope. You would have to say if it was an animal you would take it out and shoot it, wouldn't you.
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Cant agree about some of that PI.
Suzy Klein is mostly dreadful, evey bit as much part of the presenter led, dumbed down, "treat the audience like half wits and you will surely get a massive audience of half wits"
problems as the others.
I am really fed up of hearing BBC audiences ( and not just R3) being patronised every time I switch the radio on.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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This is where even those who are in general agreement about the state of R3 begin to fall out - once individual presenters are mentioned. Impossible though it may be to believe, there are knowledgeable (even distinguished!) listeners who disagree with you ('you' not aimed at anyone in particular, nor referring to any particular presenter or programme, E&OE &c &c &c, Subject to Contract).It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Black Swan
Originally posted by french frank View PostThis is where even those who are in general agreement about the state of R3 begin to fall out - once individual presenters are mentioned. Impossible though it may be to believe, there are knowledgeable (even distinguished!) listeners who disagree with you ('you' not aimed at anyone in particular, nor referring to any particular presenter or programme, E&OE &c &c &c, Subject to Contract).
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Originally posted by french frank View PostThis is where even those who are in general agreement about the state of R3 begin to fall out - once individual presenters are mentioned. Impossible though it may be to believe, there are knowledgeable (even distinguished!) listeners who disagree with you ('you' not aimed at anyone in particular, nor referring to any particular presenter or programme, E&OE &c &c &c, Subject to Contract).
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Originally posted by antongould View Post.....other than Skellers where everyone agrees.........
What one can do from comments here is form an opinion on how far agreement is from 100% on any favourite/unfavourite...
Hats thrown in the air count as approval!It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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HARRIET HAVARD
Originally posted by french frank View PostThis is where even those who are in general agreement about the state of R3 begin to fall out - once individual presenters are mentioned. Impossible though it may be to believe, there are knowledgeable (even distinguished!) listeners who disagree with you ('you' not aimed at anyone in particular, nor referring to any particular presenter or programme, E&OE &c &c &c, Subject to Contract).
With regard to Suzy Klein, I must agree with PennIgor. I too watched her series on 18th Century music, and found it most informative, without feeling I was being patroised.
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Maybe I should rephrase my comments about SK,who I am sure is capable of good presentation.
her current style though fits into a common pattern, no doubt enouraged from above, amongst daytime R3 presenters.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by teamsaint View PostMaybe I should rephrase my comments about SK,who I am sure is capable of good presentation.
her current style though fits into a common pattern, no doubt enouraged from above, amongst daytime R3 presenters.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by teamsaint View PostCant agree about some of that PI.
Suzy Klein is mostly dreadful, evey bit as much part of the presenter led, dumbed down, "treat the audience like half wits and you will surely get a massive audience of half wits"
problems as the others.
I am really fed up of hearing BBC audiences ( and not just R3) being patronised every time I switch the radio on.
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Originally posted by HARRIET HAVARD View Post...The Breakfast presenters referred to obviously have a large input into the musical content of the programme...
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