The Classic FM-isation of R3 is almost complete

[french frank]

It also makes us, the 'converted' think about what we can do.

[Mr Pee]

We agree on one point, however - further discussion between us is indeed useless!

And that was posted on Monday evening......

[Nick Armstrong]

And that was posted on Monday evening......

Quite!

[jean]

Classic FM are sponsoring a concert by the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra next month.

The programme will include

Wagner The Ride of the Valkyries
Verdi The Triumphal March from Aida
Holst Mars from The Planets
Mussorgsky Music from Pictures at an Exhibition
Tchaikovsky 1812 Overture

http://www.liverpoolphil.com/12266/events-classical-music/classic-fm-summer-live.html

If this were part of their normal concert series I would be a bit worried. But as it's a free open-air concert and part of a new Festival which replaces the entirely Beatle-themed one we used to have, I'm not.

[Lancashire Lass]

Thanks for that, Jean, I'll tell my sister in Liverpool. We've been to the Phil a number of times but this sounds like a real treat, especially if the weather's still good.

As for Dr Who -- yes, I'm all for education and encouraging people who are unfamiliar with classical music by programming lighter pieces in the Proms. But it's a case of where you draw the line, and with Dr Who, the TV programme seems to have taken from over the music. Maybe next stop could be the Strictly Prom, no doubt with suitable celebs strutting their stuff to whoops and cheers?

[french frank]

If this were part of their normal concert series I would be a bit worried. But as it's a free open-air concert and part of a new Festival which replaces the entirely Beatle-themed one we used to have, I'm not.

If Classic FM are sponsoring it, they're fulfilling the major part of their remit: trying make classical music 'accessible' to new audiences (would they be allowed to 'sponsor' a BBC Prom? They seem to have a different approach from the BBC).

[DracoM]

Thanks for that, Jean, I'll tell my sister in Liverpool. We've been to the Phil a number of times but this sounds like a real treat, especially if the weather's still good.

As for Dr Who -- yes, I'm all for education and encouraging people who are unfamiliar with classical music by programming lighter pieces in the Proms. But it's a case of where you draw the line, and with Dr Who, the TV programme seems to have taken from over the music. Maybe next stop could be the Strictly Prom, no doubt with suitable celebs strutting their stuff to whoops and cheers?

OMG, be VERY careful what your nightmares are!

[mercia]

on another thread someone mentioned that the hall for Prom 5 was barely half-full. would any loss made on that and other proms be offset by the Dr Who and film music proms which (possibly) fill the hall ?

[Zucchini]

And that was posted on Monday evening......

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[Mr Pee]

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Flags what site?

[french frank]

on another thread someone mentioned that the hall for Prom 5 was barely half-full. would any loss made on that and other proms be offset by the Dr Who and film music proms which probably fill the hall ?

I presume so. Ticket sales/revenue is set against costs and Radio 3 picks up the tab for the shortfall.

Incidentally, guideline station budgets were first published for 2006/07 in the new service licences. The new licences, published this May (2014/15) show that Radio 3 has had an increase (my calculations, so E&OE) over that span of 8.9%. Radio 1 has had an increase of 34.9% and Radio 2 of 25.7%.

No wonder they 'can't afford' (their explanation) to commission new concert interval talks and have to put on sell-out comedy shows for families at the Proms.

[Zucchini]

mr pee

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[mercia]

in my obscure way I was tentatively implying that the Dr Who & film music proms (whilst we may loathe them) are essential to make up for losses elsewhere.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

As for Dr Who -- yes, I'm all for education and encouraging people who are unfamiliar with classical music by programming lighter pieces in the Proms. But it's a case of where you draw the line, and with Dr Who, the TV programme seems to have taken from over the music. Maybe next stop could be the Strictly Prom, no doubt with suitable celebs strutting their stuff to whoops and cheers?

I agree entirely.

[Zucchini]

The new licences, published this May (2014/15) show that Radio 3 has had an increase (my calculations, so E&OE) over that span of 8.9%. Radio 1 has had an increase of 34.9% and Radio 2 of 25.7%.

No wonder they 'can't afford' (their explanation) to commission new concert interval talks and have to put on sell-out comedy shows for families at the Proms.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
The budget adjustments for Radio 1 & 2 have no influence whatsoever on R3's interval fillers or Proms programming.