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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37678

    #16
    Originally posted by salymap View Post
    The only work I know of Balfour Gardner is 'Shepherd Fennel's Dance' , an attractive light piece that Sargent and others programmed quite often.

    I'd like to know more of his work but can't imagine JEG conducting it somehow.
    Saly - I have original piano scores for the "Shepherd's Fenel Dance" and an arrangement of "Good King Wenceslas" by Balfour Gardner: both dated 1908 and in dark blue covers with Art Nouveau designs on the fronts. Very Percy Graingerish in the harmonies. My mum must have played them.

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    • EdgeleyRob
      Guest
      • Nov 2010
      • 12180

      #17
      Originally posted by Alf-Prufrock View Post
      I am afraid I do not know anything about John Elliott, but since the conductor is David Parry, a man who I think is absurdly neglected on the BBC and in concert halls generally - at least I have never had an opportunity to hear his work live - I am quite pleased with the choice.

      And what fascinating progammes we are having this week in the afternoons!
      I think British music month has really caught fire this week,and it's almost over.

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      • Pabmusic
        Full Member
        • May 2011
        • 5537

        #18
        Originally posted by Alf-Prufrock View Post
        I am afraid I do not know anything about John Elliott, but since the conductor is David Parry, a man who I think is absurdly neglected on the BBC and in concert halls generally - at least I have never had an opportunity to hear his work live - I am quite pleased with the choice.

        And what fascinating progammes we are having this week in the afternoons!
        Oh dear! I'm afraid you've missed my reference to the fact that Henry Balfour Gardiner was the great-uncle of John Elliott Gardiner. You may be right about David Parry.

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        • Pabmusic
          Full Member
          • May 2011
          • 5537

          #19
          Originally posted by salymap View Post
          The only work I know of Balfour Gardner is 'Shepherd Fennel's Dance' , an attractive light piece that Sargent and others programmed quite often.

          I'd like to know more of his work but can't imagine JEG conducting it somehow.
          He has another claim to musical fame. He was the person who funded and organised the semi-private first performance of The Planets in 1918, at the Queen's Hall, conducted by Boult.

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          • salymap
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5969

            #20
            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
            He has another claim to musical fame. He was the person who funded and organised the semi-private first performance of The Planets in 1918, at the Queen's Hall, conducted by Boult.
            Didn't know that- he must have been well off as even in 1918 it would have cost a considerable sum. He didn't rely on his compositions then,what was his main activity?

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            • Pabmusic
              Full Member
              • May 2011
              • 5537

              #21
              Originally posted by salymap View Post
              Didn't know that- he must have been well off as even in 1918 it would have cost a considerable sum. He didn't rely on his compositions then,what was his main activity?
              I'm afraid I don't know, but he must have been very comfortable. He also bought Delius's home at Grez-sur-Loing in 1928 so that the composer could continue to live there.

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              • Anna

                #22
                I unexpectedly caught the last half of this programme (although not in such romantic and serendipitous circumstances as Caliban!) I really, really, enjoyed the Walton Henry V - which I confess I didn't know at all, and the Balfour Gardner seemed ideal for such a perfect Summer's day.
                I see it was first broadcast last year and the thought crossed my mind that it would have been a better programme to broadcast in place of Simon Heffer's Saturday Classics on British music.

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #23
                  Ah, Anna, that henry V music is stupendous Walton!I have played it and have a couple of cds(brass band and orchestra). I love The Agincourt Song(or carol as its sometimes known?)
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • salymap
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    #24
                    Walton came very close to Elgar [imho] in writing some wonderful marches and also music for film.

                    I think the Henry V music is played complete in the Olivier film - another old Video I must watch again.

                    Crown Imperial, Orb and Sceptre, Jo'burg Festival Overture, all wear very well.

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                    • Alf-Prufrock

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                      Oh dear! I'm afraid you've missed my reference to the fact that Henry Balfour Gardiner was the great-uncle of John Elliott Gardiner.
                      Oh dear, red face aglow here. I quite missed the reference, but my excuse can be that the spelling distracted my comprehension - I am sure he spells his name 'Eliot'. That might have alerted me better!

                      I suppose it is surprising that (as far as I know) he has not conducted (or at least recorded) music by his distinguished relative. Or has he? Anybody know?

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                      • salymap
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5969

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Alf-Prufrock View Post
                        Oh dear, red face aglow here. I quite missed the reference, but my excuse can be that the spelling distracted my comprehension - I am sure he spells his name 'Eliot'. That might have alerted me better!

                        I suppose it is surprising that (as far as I know) he has not conducted (or at lea



                        st recorded) music by his distinguished relative. Or has he? Anybody know?
                        I see the RT has Balfour down as Gardiner - surely they are both GARDNERS? And sorry,Idon't know if JEG has recorded BG but somehow don't think so.

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26533

                          #27
                          Originally posted by salymap View Post
                          I see the RT has Balfour down as Gardiner - surely they are both GARDNERS? And sorry,Idon't know if JEG has recorded BG but somehow don't think so.

                          No - both Gardiners, saly

                          A world-leading choir, and two world-class period-instrument orchestras.




                          It's Edward who is a Gardner http://www.askonasholt.co.uk/artists...edward-gardner
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • salymap
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5969

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                            Whoops, sorry Cali. I was sure I'd seen it spelt without an 'i' in the past, probably in the RT.

                            Anyway, I've found my recording of Shepherd Fennel's Dance, Sargent and the liverpool Phil.
                            A Dutton transfer with a very nice selection of English music bits and bobs, Webster Booth singing'Onaway Awake Beloved from Hiawatha, etc etc

                            You'll all be too young to remember him The Beeb should have this disc for their English music month.


                            [Greetings from your faithful ole Rump )
                            Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 27-06-13, 12:28.

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                            • Pabmusic
                              Full Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Alf-Prufrock View Post
                              Oh dear, red face aglow here. I quite missed the reference, but my excuse can be that the spelling distracted my comprehension - I am sure he spells his name 'Eliot'. That might have alerted me better!

                              I suppose it is surprising that (as far as I know) he has not conducted (or at least recorded) music by his distinguished relative. Or has he? Anybody know?
                              I think you're right. Anyone for T?

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                              • salymap
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5969

                                #30
                                My message 24 re the BALFOUR GARDINER piece and a CD of British music got somewhat mangled and some of it appeared in the middle of Cali's earlier post.

                                Perhaps Rumpole can kindly sort it when he appears. Many thanks.

                                saly

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