Afternoon Concert, British music

[Beef Oven!]

Ask him about English music

[vinteuil]

I live in a world where I believe in the best of human nature

... ffotherington-Thomas lives!

I believe everyone loves football.

... In which case you're a sadly deluded fella

[Beef Oven!]

you're a sadly deluded fella

That is such a coincidence. In a completely different connection, someone said that to me earlier today at the breakfast table.

[ahinton]

I don’t trust people who don’t like football.

There’s something not human about people who don’t like football.

I live in a world where I believe in the best of human nature and I believe everyone loves football.

Good to read your endorsement of that fabulous Bridge Trio; the earlier and, for some, more approachable Phantaisie Trio in C minor is well worth a listen as well (although there's also an earlier one again but I know nbothing about it other than its existance and that the composer was around 20 when he wrote it).

But I'm so sorry not to have your trust and that you believe me to be lacking in humanity!

Elliott Carter once likened the first movement of his Symphonia; sum fluxæ pretium spei to a soccer match (he didn't use the term "football" and, much as I admire it - the piece, that is - I can't see the resemblance meself)...

[Stanfordian]

On the subject of Frank Bridge I think his 'Phantasie' Piano Trio winner of the 1907 Cobbett Competition for Phantasy Piano Trio is a rather neglected masterwork.

[EdgeleyRob]

On the subject of Frank Bridge I think his 'Phantasie' Piano Trio winner of the 1907 Cobbett Competition for Phantasy Piano Trio is a rather neglected masterwork.

Yes indeed Stan.

[EdgeleyRob]

Good to read your endorsement of that fabulous Bridge Trio; the earlier and, for some, more approachable Phantaisie Trio in C minor is well worth a listen as well (although there's also an earlier one again but I know nbothing about it other than its existance and that the composer was around 20 when he wrote it).

But I'm so sorry not to have your trust and that you believe me to be lacking in humanity!

Elliott Carter once likened the first movement of his Symphonia; sum fluxæ pretium spei to a soccer match (he didn't use the term "football" and, much as I admire it - the piece, that is - I can't see the resemblance meself)...

Yes ahinton,the first trio is Bridge's Op 1 (or H1).
Annoyingly it is on you tube but not available when I try to listen.

[ahinton]

On the subject of Frank Bridge I think his 'Phantasie' Piano Trio winner of the 1907 Cobbett Competition for Phantasy Piano Trio is a rather neglected masterwork.

Not sure how neglected it is but I do agree that it is a wonderful thing! I would imagine that most piano trios would want to include it in their repertoires.

[Serial_Apologist]

On the subject of Frank Bridge I think his 'Phantasie' Piano Trio winner of the 1907 Cobbett Competition for Phantasy Piano Trio is a rather neglected masterwork.

I always hear a very strong Faure influence on that piece. In fact, I heard it before I'd ever heard any Faure (except possibly the famous "Pelleas et Melisande" suite), and when I did so, put those singularly Faureian harmonies down to Bridge!

[ahinton]

I always hear a very strong Faure influence on that piece. In fact, I heard it before I'd ever heard any Faure (except possibly the famous "Pelleas et Melisande" suite), and when I did so, put those singularly Faureian harmonies down to Bridge!

Absolutely right, but that influence never quite left Bridge, I think (and of course he'd played viola in a performance of Fauré's first piano quartet that happens to be in the same key as his own Phantaisie trio); it's a potent one that I somehow suspect that Fauré himself might never have thought it possible to credit...

[Stanfordian]

Not sure how neglected it is but I do agree that it is a wonderful thing! I would imagine that most piano trios would want to include it in their repertoires.

I doubt the recital rooms are hardly brimming over with performances of this work. I've never seen it programmed but your experience may be different. It's certainly neglected in Europe where I never the see the Bridge chamber works programmed.

[ahinton]

I doubt the recital rooms are hardly brimming over with performances of this work are they? I've never seen it programmed but your experience may be different. It's certainly neglected in Europe.

It's certainly less widely performed than one might expect, given how attractive a work it is, but there are several ensembles that have it in their repertoires.

Does anyone here know anything about Bridge's early D minor trio?

[Nick Armstrong]

What a pleasant serendipity this afternoon, cycling round the neighbourhood with Sterndale Bennett's first piano concerto in the ears on Afternoon on 3, to come upon this:









(Queensborough Terrace, incidentally, in case anyone wants to make a pilgrimage).

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And then Parry's "English" Symphony made an amiable sub-Mendelssohnian soundtrack to a cycle round Hyde Park and Kensington Gardens on a breezy, sunny, mild November afternoon....

[Serial_Apologist]

(Queensborough Terrace, incidentally, in case anyone wants to make a pilgrimage).

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I might just take up that suggestion, Cali - I often pay visits to Cheyney Walk to pay my respects to the Vaughan Williams plaque. I haven't yet been to the impressive Regency terrace off Regent's Park to see if there's another one there - it being where RVW lived his final years.

By the way, am I right in thinking Queensborough Terrace to the the one which has an artificial frontage consistent with the remainder, built to conceal the District/Circle Line which passes underneath at that point?

[Nick Armstrong]

By the way, am I right in thinking Queensborough Terrace to the the one which has an artificial frontage consistent with the remainder, built to conceal the District/Circle Line which passes underneath at that point?

Close - that's a couple of streets to the east, in Leinster Terrace.